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R22 being discontinued??!!

Discussion in 'DIRECTV SD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by xmguy, May 6, 2009.

  1. Jun 2, 2009 #81 of 107
    RobertE

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    I don't see any reason why DirecTv couldn't disable the HD on the HR2x box, then charge a enabling fee if/when the time comes.
     
  2. Jun 2, 2009 #82 of 107
    The Merg

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    That was supposedly the idea behind the R22 as it is essentially an HR22 with the HD capabilities disabled.

    I think the real question comes up if you have SD service and order a new SD-DVR when you live in the areas that require an MPEG-4 receiver since you will not get an R22 and will get an HD-DVR. Since the subscriber agreement for an HD-DVR activation currently requires subscribing to the HD service for $10/month, are they going to be requiring those subsribers to upgrade to HD service? This can become a huge issue for subscibers if the subscriber does not have any HD televisions as it would essentially be a $10 increase to their monthly fee.

    It would be interesting to see if the subscriber agreement changes on June 17th to accomodate this new situation.

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  3. Jun 2, 2009 #83 of 107
    roadrunner1782

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    I can see many possible problems that could arise with Directv doing all this. However, I have to think that they have a plan in place and are well aware of what might occur.
     
  4. Jun 2, 2009 #84 of 107
    dodge boy

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    I own 3 R22s and have the PP, if 1 of then dies, what will they do? I'd rather have an Owned R22 than a leased HR2* on an SD TV........

    Oh wait no more grey bars....
     
  5. Jun 2, 2009 #85 of 107
    miketorse

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    I hope you are right. Although, I would've thought they had a plan in place when giving HD receivers for SD only without a "Hide HD Duplicates" feature in the software.
     
  6. Jun 2, 2009 #86 of 107
    The Merg

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    Shhh... Don't tell ThomasM...

    As for your situation, if one of your R22's dies and is replaced under the PP, your new HR2x would still be listed as owned.

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  7. Jun 2, 2009 #87 of 107
    LOCODUDE

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    Indeed......... :D
     
  8. Jun 4, 2009 #88 of 107
    HRJustin

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    I cant believe this after all the trouble I went through try to get an HD DVR instead of the r22 for the local72swap. The rep I talked to when scheduling the equipment swap back in Feburary told me I could pay $99 dollars to have an HD DVR installed. So I had the $99 dvr upgrade fee charged to our account. Instead the installer brought an R22 when I scheduled to swap out the equipment. I didnt have an HDTV at the time but wanted to have the HD DVR to be ready for a new TV. Since we didnt and still dont have an HDTV it really didnt matter. I just called in and they seen the $99 upgrade fee was wrong and all they would do is credit the money back.

    If I could have gotten the HD DVR when I had equipment swapped I would already have an HDTV by now. Since they didnt install the HD DVR right then I havent really been worried about getting an HDTV just to have to pay to upgrade to an HR series HD DVR.

    Now if I just would have waited to have the equipment swapped after June 17th I would have gotten an HD DVR by default. I hope they release an update or something for the r22 to make it HD. Maybe they will allow the R22 to be swapped out for an HR series HD DVR?? Its bogus that I paid $99 to get an HD DVR just to have it refunded back towards the next few bills.
     
  9. Jun 4, 2009 #89 of 107
    dishrich

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    Exactly - NO different than what DISH is doing with it's Eastern Arc markets that require all MPEG4 equipment. Since the only MPEG4 equipment they have are all HD, they just disable the HD & do NOT charge the HD fee.

    And I am DEFINITELY glad they finally are doing this, since it's BS that when those R22 downconvert all those HD locals to SD, they did NOT enable a zoom setting so that these locals don't look like a postage stamp on 4:3 TV's - which was what these R22 were intended for all along! :rolleyes:
     
  10. Jun 4, 2009 #90 of 107
    Shades228

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    Since there seems to be some confusion. R22's are not being replaced by HR models. They are only using R22's in mpeg 4 markets. This does not mean that R22's are disappearing.
     
  11. Jun 4, 2009 #91 of 107
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  12. Jun 4, 2009 #92 of 107
    xmguy

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    I'm just glad I bought my mom the R22-100 from Best Buy when I did. I could never go back to an R15/R16 "NORMAL" DVR. I'd loose MRV, VOD, MEDIA SHARE. All the goodies that go with it. I just hope if my R22's ever go out D* will swap me into a HR2x with HD deactivated and not give me a R15/R16 DVR. Because I get all my channels on the 101 sat.
     
  13. Jun 5, 2009 #93 of 107
    dodge boy

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    This is sad as now we are stuck with the grey bars and no HD on it forever.... :(
     
  14. Jun 5, 2009 #94 of 107
    xmguy

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    I don't care about HD. But it does probably mean that the screen functions like what you've mentioned will not be addressed.
     
  15. Jun 5, 2009 #95 of 107
    dseang21

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    So i'm still confused. I live in the "72.5" market, and according to the link from miketorse, They are no longer going to be installing r22 in the 72.5 market. Shades228's clarification implies that they will still use the r22 in the "mpeg4" markets. Maybe I'm miss informed, but isn't 72.5 and mpeg4 market the same? I've gone round and round with tech support about the STUPID GRAY BARS a few times with tech support, so i'm curious what the real answer is...
     
  16. Jun 5, 2009 #96 of 107
    miketorse

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    A few weeks ago, there was notice from DirecTV that R22's would only be used from the HSP's in the 72.5/MPEG4 Local area (same thing) and no longer available nationwide.

    Then, last week, another notice was sent (in the link) that R22's would stopped being used in favor of HD DVR's in the 72.5 markets. Two different announcements a few weeks (maybe a month?) apart.
     
  17. Jun 5, 2009 #97 of 107
    denvertrakker

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    I'm confused about this "grey bars" business.

    I have an R22 connected to a Samsung DLP (HLR-4667).

    No grey bars. Looks freakin' gorgeous, to the point I doubt I'll upgrade to HD anytime soon.:confused:
     
  18. Jun 5, 2009 #98 of 107
    miketorse

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    Simply, in the MPEG4 SD local markets the R22 is taking the HD local signal from satellites 103 or 99 and showing the HD station as a SD signal. Because the signal is 16:9 the receiver needs to add bars to those channels. Either top/bottom for a letter box or right/left for "centercut". The bars are gray because that is default in the software and unable to be changed because that's in the HD portion of the software that is not accessible.
     
  19. Jun 5, 2009 #99 of 107
    dodge boy

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    Hook it up to a 4:3 tv and set it for 4:3 and see what it does to your locals.... It puts bars on the sides and they are grey.... you can not zoom the picture... The only option is to set it 16:9 then when you switch to a non HD channel you need to switch bck to 4:3.

    Just change your TV format under the menu on the DVR for 2 seconds you'll see them.
     
  20. Jun 5, 2009 #100 of 107
    denvertrakker

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    So, this is a problem only in MPEG4 markets? I guess Denver local isn't one, then, because originally I had the R22 hooked up to an old 4:3 Toshiba 20" CRT. No bars there either.
     

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