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RBR or Menu Reset

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by mridan, Oct 7, 2013.

  1. Rich

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    D*'s "tech site". Huh. Personally, I prefer the tech advice given here.

    Imaginary conversation on D*'s "tech site" between a Poor Lost Soul and one of D*'s "techs":

    PLS---My hard drive makes a grinding noise.

    D*---RBR as quickly as possible.

    PLS---Did the RBR still getting grinding noises.

    D*---List your sat signals

    PLS---Here they are.

    D*---Strange, they're all good. Are all your HDDs making grinding noises? After all, they are functionally equivalent... :rolling:

    Rich
     
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  2. otaliema

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    The HDDVR's do have about a 15 second or so delay on RBR's now, I believe it's shutting down the OS on the unit during that time so it's not as harsh on the HDD in the unit. Now unplugging is a totally different matter, it kills the power instantly there is a small power bleed off as the cap's in the unit drain out but it's not a nice as a menu or RBR for the HDD in the unit that's why it's one of the last resets we tell you to try. Only ones after that are reset defaults<-personal settings reset and reset everything<-Box nuke.

    I can tell you there are cases of units going in-to a near permanent stand by mode which can happen if they have been unplugged or lost power while in stand by mode. That's a simple RBR and hit power with in 2 seconds of letting go of the button and wait up-to 15 minutes for it recover but that problem hasn't been seen in a long time, not sure why but the repair steps where still in the tech database for the CSR's
     
  3. TomCat

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    That in itself is a bit of an extreme analogy, because the odds of it writing even a few bytes of data where it should not are very slim to begin with (indexing probably even happens on a partition physically removed from where the cataloging and media are), the odds of it writing to something that would corrupt even one file are much slimmer, and the odds of it meaning you need to reformat are almost too infinitesimal to even consider, And none of those "trash" the HDD, just potentially an iota of data.

    The point is that the effect of a rude reboot vs an orderly one is that the end result is virtually the same 9999 times out of 10000, so you can get away with either, but that said, it still makes sense to do the menu reboot if you have that opportunity. But if you RBR instead is that as important as defunding Obamacare would be to a democrat? Probably not, so it is also probably nothing to get worked up over. Like Obamacare.
     
  4. Diana C

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    Just keep in mind that the DVRs are ALWAYS writing video data to the buffer...it is not just indexing that is going on in an "idle" DVR.

    Just going by my experience, we've lost all the recordings on my HD 3 times as a result of a "rude" reset. That's after roughly 10 years of DVR use, with an average of 3 DVRs in the home. Over the same period, we've probably had 100 "rude" resets that caused no trouble at all.
     
  5. peds48

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    Keep in mind that some (the majority) of the folks that post over the DirecTV forums as also well known (for giving accurate info) posters here. so what you imply is simple a "fairy tale"
     
  6. Rich

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    What?
     
  7. Rich

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    What?
     
  8. otaliema

    otaliema AllStar

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    I belave what Peds is saying is that a good bit of the posters on Directv tehc fourms are the same people that post here.
    I havn't been to the tech forums on D* site in a couple years but I do remember that large number of the posters on the site where D* field techs that had been at it for a while so the information being provided was very accurate.
     

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