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Reasons Al Jazeera should be carried in the US by its Director General

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by sdk009, Feb 1, 2011.

  1. Feb 2, 2011 #41 of 124
    joed32

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    You are absolutely right! Al Jazeera got a bad name in the west because of anti western propaganda and showing beheadings, 911 coverage, etc. People here are saying that Al Jazeera English is a completely different entity and provides fair coverage with no bias. I don't know if that's true or not but the perception that Al Jazeera is Al Jazeera no matter what the language will remain in the minds of the American people.

    I do like BBC and NHK English, etc. and have no objection to any foreign news service, just not sure they need to be on Directv since I have access to them in other ways.
     
  2. Feb 2, 2011 #42 of 124
    hasan

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    AJE is a completely different entity, and it seems to me that in most cases, they make an effort at fairness. To say they have no bias is laughable, if not outright dangerous (and the same can be said for all news sources).

    It's our job to discover those biases and adjust our perceptions accordingly.

    ...and I would love, and strongly recommend to D* to carry AJE. Its coverage area and localized perceptions are just too important to remain ignorant of, not to mention the variety of opinion, refreshing coverage and humor that come as part of the package. It's always entertaining to watch governments try to "manage" the news. Seeing that from various perspectives is both valuable and at least a bit amusing along the way.

    In an increasingly globalized environment, the more exposure we get to other significant cultural/political players, the better. Surely one channel is not an overload on the D* system.
     
  3. Feb 2, 2011 #43 of 124
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    But what you just said (anti-Western propaganda, beheading, etc.) is NOT TRUE.

    Here's a nice short read for those that dismiss AJE without even watching it: http://www.iwantaje.net/hm
     
  4. Feb 2, 2011 #44 of 124
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    It's also being drug through the grinder this week by the conservative radio noise machine.

    We as US citizens owe it to ourselves to be as informed as possible to all the facts and points-of-view so that we can come to our own conclusions as to what is best for this country.
     
  5. Feb 2, 2011 #45 of 124
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    Hi James....Both DirecTV and DISH carry dozens of unknown/small shopping and infomercial channels whose SD bandwidth could easily be applied to an International News Package if they really wanted to... If those infomercial channels are paying for carriage you can offset those revenues with the subscriber fees from International premium subscribers....

    Or instead, if they want additional revenue, DISH could add it on its 118.7 International Services satellite and DirecTV could add it on its 119 DirecTV Mas or on its 95 International satellite.... Every month we see continued SD channel additions to both these satellites so they seem to have the available SD bandwidth...

    In fact, some weeks ago I saw in the DISH Uplink Report that France 24 English had been uplinked but yet not available.... I have the French Bouquet Package with France 24 News (in French) but would love to also have the English channel version added to this package....

    Any idea, James, why F24 English still hasn't been made available (even though its been uplinked) ?
     
  6. Feb 2, 2011 #46 of 124
    hasan

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    I spent many more words try to say the same thing earlier. Nice job!
     
  7. Feb 2, 2011 #47 of 124
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    Squeezing one or two SD channels probably wouldn't be much of a problem. A positive of the recent development as it relates to Al-Jazeera is that Egypt's banning them shows to many Americans that whatever the channels' biases it is an independent voice. The lack of it in the vast majority of the United States also shows that while we do not have government censorship of information, censorship through the private sector has the same effect.

    This is not the beginning of WWIII. The countries you mentioned are acrossed the spectrum in terms of their relationships to Western democracies. The best case scenario is that it's the Middle East version of 1991 when the Soviet Block fell in relatively peaceful revolutions. The absolutely worse case scenario is that Egypt becomes the Sunni equivilant of Iran, where a terrible pro-U.S. government is replaced by a terrible anti-U.S. government. Neither event resulted in WWIII. I personally
    suspect it will come down to somewhere in between. Internationally, the Suez Canal is the real issue here, but it's exceptionally doubtful that whoever the new leaders of Egypt are they will ultimately do anything to seriously rock the economic boat. These revolutions are being fueled by poor economies and the lack of government response. New governments will want to stay in power and that means not further limiting the possibility of economic growth.
     
  8. Feb 2, 2011 #48 of 124
    MikeW

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    While searching for news about the events in Egypt last weekend, I found the usual three networks doing a poor job. CNN was trying, but their anchors were so ill prepared for live news that I had to change the channel. FOX News was reporting on the Fed Judge's decision on the healthcare law and MSNBC was showing "LockUp" with occasional "breaking news" briefs. AJ has been a very good source of on-going information and I am glad to have the option (ROKU).
     
  9. Feb 2, 2011 #49 of 124
    hasan

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    WW III may be a bit hyperbolic, for the reasons you stated. This of course, does not diminish the other important elements both you and the other poster so succinctly identified.
     
  10. Feb 2, 2011 #50 of 124
    joed32

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    I wasn't talking about the English version. I was talking about Al Jazeera and it is true.
     
  11. Feb 2, 2011 #51 of 124
    joed32

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    I agree with you, all news is somewhat slanted. Some seem to think it's not. If D* decides to carry it I would have no objection at all.
     
  12. Feb 2, 2011 #52 of 124
    James Long

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    Not every decision not to carry a channel is censorship. Is DirecTV censoring G4? No, they are just making a business decision.

    While the current situation in Egypt has brought some attention to the area there is (at best) no guarantee that the channel will be as desired after the story has died down. Carriage decisions shouldn't be made based on short term desires.

    LINK has done a good job of giving Al Jazeera English a temporary home ... it serves the immediate need for extra coverage of Egypt. It is probably not a bad channel to consider in the future ... but calling the decision not to carry in censorship seems overstated.
     
  13. Feb 2, 2011 #53 of 124
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    I think you're right, but I also think that's the type of channel we need. I'd love CBC, RT, BBC World Service (even if it's just audio) and the like. Al Jazerra is another one I'd love along with CNN-International and CSPAN3. And I'd pay MORE for them!
     
  14. Feb 2, 2011 #54 of 124
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    I have been watching Al-Jazeera English. And it is refreshing to see some other points of view. American news seems to be mostly focused on inviting three "experts" on a subject, and then setting them up in split screens so we can see them argue.

    I also would like to see BBC World and CNN International. I know they share coverage with CNN US on big events, but they have a number of interesting news shows we don't have on the US version.

    These are fairly cheap channels, they don't take up a lot of bandwidth being all in SD only, and they give Americans a choice of news.

    Fox and MSNBC are both absolutely worthless. One is rightwing, the other leftwing, and neither give a clear picture of what is going on. CNN is probably doing the best job as to not choose a political side, but doesn't report everything on the international theatre.

    I can watch all three online by the way through a DLNA server I have setup.... but it would just be nice to have them as actual channels, so I can easily rewind if I missed anything.
     
  15. Feb 2, 2011 #55 of 124
    Davenlr

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    You are paying more without them :)
     
  16. Feb 2, 2011 #56 of 124
    James Long

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    Are you saying they would pay for US carriage? Or are you saying that customers paying premium prices for internationals subsidizes regular subscribers?
     
  17. Feb 2, 2011 #57 of 124
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    DISH already carries Al Jazeera's main Arabic channel in their Arabic International Package.... In fact, they carry 2 Al Jazeera channels--- Al Jazeera News and Al Jazeera Sports... So yes, I agree, censorship doesn't appear to be at play here (at least by DISH)...

    You'd think they could easily negotiate the English version of AJ and add it to their 118.7 International packages... (The Arabic package alone is made up of 22 Middle Eastern channels !)....
     
  18. Feb 2, 2011 #58 of 124
    James Long

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    To serve English language viewers, English language channels need to be on the core satellites.

    DISH has Euronews on 118 and 61.5 - and has now made it available a la carte for $3. A similar option for Al Jazeera wouldn't be bad ... although it would be better if it were at no extra charge (Al Jazeera paying for distribution). Putting it on an international satellite ... it might as well not be there.
     
  19. Feb 2, 2011 #59 of 124
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    Yes, of course AJE deserves a slot on the main satellites but I would guess that there's such a hunger out there for real International News channels that you might be surprised how many people would go through the small trouble of adding the wing LNB for 118.7.... The same for DirecTV's 95 degrees Satellite's LNB...

    Pioneer actions like these is what helped launch the now very successful Spanish-language packages on DISH and DTV in the 1990's ("Dish 500" upgrades-- remember ? and "Mas" on 119 for DTV)... That "hunger" spurred multiple LNB set-ups without much complaining....
     
  20. Feb 2, 2011 #60 of 124
    James Long

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    The market demand for Spanish language and other Hispanic programming is a lot larger than the demand for international news channels. The most popular channels have even found their way in to the English language packages (Univision, Telemundo, TeleFutura, MunDos) plus public interest channels such as HITN, AlmaVision and V-ME.

    The Latino packages were also started at a time where the Internet was not so big of a competition ... putting Al Jazeera on mainstream satellite would be a convenience, but it isn't preventing people from watching.
     

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