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Recent Cnet Ratings on HR20/21 are Puzzling

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by dreadlk, Nov 11, 2008.

  1. Flyrx7

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    Well said.
    I think you hit it on the head with the expectations aspect. Everyone's are different. Couple that with the useage type issues and it could go along way explaining why it 'works' for one person and not the other.
    But no matter now, as this thread has turned into a pi$$ing match between "T" and "D".
     
  2. GrumpyBear

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    Well its kind of funny to say that you will give it a 7.5, as long as you can live with the glitch's.
    It would be harder for somebody trying to be impartal, to give it that high of a rating, glitch's and missing features would have to drop the overall rating. Granted maybe with the announcement of a now DirectTivo system, D* has decided to limp along so it can throw in the towel on fixes, afterwards.
     
  3. ChrisMinCT

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    I'd have to differ with you on that statement. If they were not poorly constructed, I wouldn't have sent 5 dead ones back to D* in less than 16 months and I wouldn't need chill pads to keep them from overheating, especially since they have lots of room for air circulation. Notice that I'm not touching the software here. Just the construction of the hardware.

    Meanwhile, I have four D* DVRs retired and sitting in the basement that were in service for many years without a hardware failure or overheating (let's not mention who made those, however :hurah: ) Those are well constructed set top boxes.
     
  4. bonscott87

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    Of course I had several of *those* DVRs and had 2 of them with crashed hard drives (losing whole seasons of shows in the process) and another with constant lock up problems which ended up being a heat issue. I might go so far to say they were poorly constructed. Amazing how people who had "perfect" DVRs seem to think it was that way for everyone and *always* ignore those that have problems. Hmmmmmmmmm......
     
  5. veryoldschool

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    This touches on what may be an underlying problem.
    Made in America, made in Mexico, made in Korea, made in China.
    In the new world economy, everything is made by the lowest bidder.
    Your "chill pads" sound like the H20-600 [Korean].
    Tivos seem to have been made [assembled] in the same plant in Mexico that the "early" HR20s were. We've even found a Tivo inspection tag inside an HR20 to support this.
    "Oh Mexico is too expensive" so off to China. Shortcuts in every step of the processes. Little to no testing before shipping.
    Should Tivo follow this same path, it wouldn't matter "a hill of beans" if they had the best software/development in the world, if the manufactured product wasn't "tested" to ensure that each had the quality intended.
     
  6. Stuart Sweet

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    I'd like to get back onto this topic, and not onto the topic of "the DVR that must not show its face."
     
  7. GrumpyBear

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    Seems to work both ways in this little forum.
    Amazing how people who had "perfect" DVRs seem to think it was that way for everyone and *always* ignore those that have problems, and those that now have a "perfect" Dvr, seem to ignore all those that have a problem now.
     
  8. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    I didn't get the post count I have by "ignoring all those that have a problem". :)
     
  9. Flyrx7

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    Heh heh, c'mon now, we all know you like koolaid, you just like a different flavor. :lol:
     
  10. GrumpyBear

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    I was just saying BonScott, hit the nail on the head with that post, and it works both ways. Users here should focus on the problems and lack of features, or whats added features have been added, instead of bashing.
    You just have to look a the recent Reviews of Tivo's, to see that they have issues as well, granted they are also losing marketshare.
     
  11. bonscott87

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    Exactly, works both ways. There are people that have problems with any platform, and people that don't have problems. The *real* problem is people on either side that have their head in the sand.

    I had many problems with various Tivo's but I also know that most did not. While I also have had very little problems with the HR2x's I have, I also know that some have had problems. I'm also not naive and know that the majority of either platform do not have problems.

    Like VOS, I don't have the post count I have by ignoring those with problems. And 99% of people on this forum, even the biggest D* cheerleaders, all admit that there were big problems with the HR2x at first and that some people still do have problems. The thing that ruffles feathers is when you get someone that goes off the handle and says "My Tivo was perfect and therefore everything that DirecTV does sucks" while sticking their head in the sand and ignoring the many that did and still do have problems with their Tivo's. It's that "I've been wronged by DirecTV and they hate puppies"attitude that grinds on people here. Fine, your Tivo was perfect, but it wasn't for everyone. Just like the HR2x is perfect for some, but not for others.

    Let's just move on with reality. Please.
     
  12. veryoldschool

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    Well said. :)
     
  13. GrumpyBear

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    Just make sure you understand, that it was GENERAL comment, not a comment directed at anybody.
     
  14. Doug Brott

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    :scratchin .. what were we talking about again ..
     
  15. GrumpyBear

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    Supposedly the idea of this theard was rather or not the Cnet review was accurate/justified or not?
     
  16. allenn

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    You are welcome! And thanks again for the D* information and running this forum.
    Send me a T-shirt too!
     
  17. allenn

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    Cnet like dbstalk is a place to voice an opinion. I think it is healthy to do so.

    I wonder how many in this forum would keep an automobile, toaster, TV, radio, or anything that has as many issues as the HR series of DVR's? My guess is none. I have been with D* since October, 1994. I have owned about every model of D* equipment starting with two receivers costing $1500. I have had an RCA Dolby receiver and two Hughes dvr's with Tivo. You might say I like D*, but I do not like the software unreliability of the HR dvr's. I hope things get fixed soon, because we have AT&T U-verse in the neighborhood; my wife is retired; and she is tired of rebooting the two HR21-700's. Like our President elect, she wants change.
     
  18. inkahauts

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    Just want to point out... Tivo didn't invent the DVR.. They where one of two companies that came out with a DVR and took it mainstream before anyone else...

    ReplayTV was first to the market, and frankly, at any given moment when the two were truly competing against each other, ReplayTV was always ahead and more advanced than Tivo... But Tivo had the money behind it to market itself.... unfortunately...
     
  19. allenn

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    I guess you missed my reply at the following link: http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=1892239&postcount=119. Check it out.

    If I was a gambler, I would bet Tivo hired some of Replay's programmers. Advantage Tivo. Thanks for you opinion.
     
  20. harsh

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    The part that completely confounds me is why the apologists consistently bring up the obsolete DirecTiVo units in discussions about the HR2x; insisting that anyone who doesn't like the HR2x must obviously be a TiVo zealot.

    There are more than a handful of people who don't like the HR2x that have never used a TiVo (or any other DVR for that matter).
     

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