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Reno CBS and Chattanooga NBC stations pulled

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by phrelin, Oct 31, 2011.

  1. phrelin

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    A closely held corporation Sarkes Tarzian, Inc., owns CBS affiliate KTVN in Reno, Nevada, and NBC affiliate WRCB in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Right now they are in a retrans negotiations dispute with Dish.

    Broadcasting & Cable reported:
    According to a Chattanooga news report:
     
  2. cjrleimer

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    Actually KTVN is the CBS affiliate where I live in Reno which is upgrading their news set and has been in a temporary studio for the past 2 months possibly getting ready to convert to HD.
     
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    Oops, my bad. I've corrected the original post but a moderator will have to change the title.
     
  4. sum_random_dork

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    KTVN keeps running a scroll across their shows saying Dish is refusing to pay "pennies a day" for customers to see their "Great CBS programing and News." The scrolls seem much nastier than those that Fox/NewsCorp was running on FOX channels directed at DirecTV.
     
  5. Slamminc11

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    let 'em go! They'll come crawling back at some point!
     
  6. Nov 1, 2011 #6 of 36
    cjrleimer

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    KTVN Channel 2 News
    KTVN and DISH NETWORK are negotiating to provide for continued carriage of KTVN on DISH. Unfortunately, we have not yet reached an agreement, and DISH has removed KTVN from its lineup. KTVN has extended an unconditional extension to DISH to allow your service to continue through the end of November while we continue to negotiate, and that offer remains open. DISH has unilaterally rejected the extension. It is DISH's choice that you no longer have KTVN in your program lineup.
    We currently do not know when, or if, KTVN will be restored as part of the DISH program service. In the short term, DISH is free to accept our unconditional extension, and KTVN could be back on the system at once. In the long term, resumption of carriage of KTVN on DISH will require that new contract terms be agreed upon by DISH and KTVN. We are continuing to negotiate and would like to reach a new agreement to carry us forward for the next few years. KTVN is off Dish same with WRCB.
     
  7. Nov 1, 2011 #7 of 36
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    The easy way to settle all of these is to ban all retransmissions fees for FCC licensees.
     
  8. Nov 1, 2011 #8 of 36
    phrelin

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    WRCB in Chattanooga also has the update message reflecting that the station has been taken off of Dish.

    Perhaps, a Moderator could retitle this thread with the updated info (and elminate my erroneous reference to NBC).
     
  9. Nov 4, 2011 #9 of 36
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    Amen. OTA channels should have NEVER been allowed by Congress to charge retransmission fees in the first place!
     
  10. VDP07

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    Traded a series of emails with KTVN's station manager on this subject last week. You can imagine his stance on the subject.
     
  11. Blowgun

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    The KTVN dispute has allowed me more time to watch KRNV and KOLO news. Thanks KTVN.
     
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    For that matter, the stations should PAY Dish to Carry their 'nearly free' bandwidth, supposedly 'free' to all stations (ad supported), but of course "You can NOT watch ANY other CBS station because you are in our DMA, but we charge Dish for carriage-we screw you from both sides, smart huh?"!!!!

    Yet another case of Big business paying off US law makers via huge powerful NAB lobbyist for corporate greed, oops, profits, oops, free enterprise, oops, capitalism. :)

    Yeah, yeah, we know its just silly TV, but the airwaves and frequencies are 'supposedly' owned by the Citizens of US, ha ha, what a joke?!! Stations are mandated to provide 'free to all' TV signals to those in their DMA but do they (ask us who live in hilly country-barriers to reception)?
     
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    In the old days when DISH didn't have all the major networks for a DMA, your bill would be slightly reduced. The last time this happened, the Viacom fiasco, I was able to get CBS in Atlanta for a small fee per month. Since the latter is no longer available, grumble, what about the former?

    What happens to the bill these days with these protracted disputes?
     
  14. Blowgun

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    I'm sure at some point the parties will come to an agreement and KTVN will return to DISH. In the meantime, as long as we don't have a CBS station are we suppose to get a slightly reduced bill?
     
  15. phrelin

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    No harm in asking. The worse they could say could be no.
     
  16. Blowgun

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    I was hoping someone from the DIRT would answer the question. I dread the idea of playing CSR roulette, once again.
     
  17. cjrleimer

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    Out of curiosity is E providing another CBS affiliate for dish subscribers or is it just a screen with the dispute explanation on it.
     
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    No. I don't think so.
     
  19. Blowgun

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    DISH isn't providing an alternate CBS, hence why I want to know if a small refund is in order. This is what DISH use to do when the DMA wasn't complete.

    The last time I looked at channel 2, DISH had a lady in a video loop explaining why KTVN was removed. However, for days the audio kept cutting out at random intervals and became annoying. You would think that DISH would have noticed the audio problem, but they haven't.
     
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    Even though the KTVN video still shows the lady with the glitchy audio[1] attempting to explain why KTVN was removed from DISH's lineup, the 119° sat has returned to showing the immediate KTVN guide data. Perhaps an end is in sight or is it just another glitch?



    [1] For the entire time that DISH has removed KTVN, DISH has been completely oblivious to the glitchy audio problem, thus rendering that portion of the explanation for why KTVN was removed, useless.
     

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