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Replacement HR20-700C arrived

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by NOLANSKI, Oct 27, 2007.

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  1. Drew2k

    Drew2k New Member

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    OK - I'll play dumb and ask the obvious Grant's Tomb question ... other than their color, what is the difference between black wire ties and white wire ties?

    Be gentle ...
     
  2. jtn

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    R = Rainbow
    W = White
    P = Pink
    L = Lavender

    :uglyhamme
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  3. hilmar2k

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    I am glad I am not the only one who was scratching his head trying to figure that one out.
     
  4. Rakul

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    Cable orgination scheme maybe? Here I have Black RG-6 for Sat and White RG-6 for OTA just so I can find them easier and I don't guess what wire goes where when I redo stuff.
     
  5. Drew2k

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    Cool thought, but are there "universal standards" followed? I'm guessing there's not ... so it's probably what the homeowner or local instlalationn company has adopted as their own local standards.
     
  6. Rich

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    First let me say that you can buy multicolored wire ties at Home Depot, Lowes and Wal-Mart, etc. The colors on those are probably meaningless, but if you purchase ties at an electrical supply house, the white ones are for indoor use and the black ones are for outside use. If you use the white ties outside they will crack and break. The black ties will last years longer.

    I was an electrician's apprentice when wire ties were introduced. Big time saver over "serving" wires (don't ask). All there was at first was white ties and they had to be constantly replaced. Anyhow, they have evolved to the point where you can install a black tie outside and count on it lasting for years. Now you can even get them with quick release mechanisms. Reusable wire ties, who wudda thought?

    Nothing against those retailers mentioned above, but if you are going to purchase electrical supplies and want to do a first class job, go to an electrical supply warehouse. They will know exactly what to give you.

    Gentle enough?
     
  7. Drew2k

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    Yup. I never knew there was a longevity issue between the white and black ties... Now I know. Thanks.
     
  8. Rich

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    Actually, there is a "Universal Standard". The National Electric Code. And the updated Electrician's Handbook. The NEC is the one that really packs the punch. That is the minimum standard that states and towns must adhere to.
     
  9. Rich

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    You're very welcome.

    I wonder if the police use a special type of wire tie or just use the electrical ones?
     
  10. hilmar2k

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    Well, if I ever get cuffed with white wire ties, I now know that if they leave me outside, I'll eventually be able to escape.:lol:
     
  11. RobertE

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    The black ties (and cable for that matter) have better UV resistance properties compared to the white ones.
     
  12. Rich

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    You must be disgustingly happy today. I kept my word and rooted for the Sox.

     
  13. NOLANSKI

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    Well I guess we may never know what "C" means because I just sent it back. because it was filthy with grime as I just posted in another thread.
     
  14. hasan

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    You need to take the high ground here: You love humanity, it's people you can't stand.:)
     
  15. Rich

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    I just got a 100 C-R.
     
  16. FHSPSU67

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    You beat me to it! I'm pretty sure (the box is gone since I used it to return my old HR20-100) that mine said HR20-700 -R-C or HR20-C-R.
     
  17. FHSPSU67

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    As a retired engineer I want you to know that you're posts here are very informative and much appreciated! My last 5 years of employment were made possible and even enjoyable because of two excellent techs. The only "bad" techs I've ever known were the ones who just didn't care and through your posts I know that you care!:goodjob:
     
  18. Rich

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    I have it figured out! The 100 I got yesterday was naturally a refurb. The power cord would not fit correctly in it's slot (I tried several cords, the problem is the unit), I had to jiggle it to get it to boot up. The front panel was loose because the sliding panel on top had not been tightened up and rattled constantly (yes, I could have tightened it up, but it is a "leased" unit and I wouldn't think of using a tool on something I don't own). I set it to record a number of programs last night and when I turned it on this morning I got a blank screen.

    I rebooted and the list came up with all the programs I had recorded. All the recordings were blank. I called the PP and they are sending a replacement. I can't wait. More D*Hell.

    Anyhow, I now believe the C-R label means "Crap - Return for more crap"

     
  19. veryoldschool

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    I think if you look at where it was manufactured:
    C stands for China,
    R stands for Refurbished/remanufactured [which in reality is: returned, recycled, but not "repaired"]
     
  20. Rich

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    So the units built in Mexico have a 700S designation because...

    Agree with your opinion of "Refurbished". I don't know why I do this to myself. If the next refurb doesn't work (the 100 I got yesterday is being replaced), I think I will go to Costco and buy a new one. I don't really care about the money and these refurbs are "fecal matter".

    But even if I buy a new one, I will make them send me a working unit.

     
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