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Retailer Chat - April 27/04 - Locals info, some programming, etc..

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by Darkman, Apr 27, 2004.

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  1. Jacob S

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    111 channels plus the additional ones from these additional markets going up. That is quite a few markets that will be taken away from the new satellite that will be launched. What would that be, 10-15 markets?
     
  2. James Long

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    I'm a little lost. The 111 figure I gave included "not yet available" as noted.
    Those 111 are not full markets (except the one as noted). Those 111 are the overflow parts of 38 markets (22 markets on 61.5º and 16 markets on 148º). Plus the one complete market on 148º.

    The only "new satellite" that can help these markets is the replacement for the bird at 110º that is expected to launch next year (2005).

    The new satellite THIS YEAR for E* will be AMC-15, replacing the temporary one at 105º. AMC-2 was a ConUS bird, but it was designed for looking at the US from a different position, so the footprint isn't suited as well for 105º.

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  3. gpflepsen

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    When is AMC-15 due to launch? Could this be linked to some HD additions?
     
  4. James Long

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    August?

    There has to be a search button around here somewhere ... (if you want a better answer).

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    so the AMC-15 would go to 105 location then?

    And you are saying possilbly in August?

    If so - what would happen - the Signal strenth at 105 would become instantly stronger?

    And would that mean - that if putting up own Non Superdish single dish at that location - can get away with a smaller size? (like now i think recommended like 36 inches or something).. If so .. what size would be recomended then? .. should be smaller i d think...
     
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    Dripping...
    I thought the issue with a larger dish for 105 and 121 was that spacing between satellite's is closer then at 101/110/119 so you need to larger dish to allow it to focus better.
     
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    well ya.. you need a larger dish then say 24 or 18 inch..

    However for example - i understand that the signal strenth is stronger at 121 then at 105 (at TPs).. and currently maybe at 121 - 30 inch is sufficient, where at 105 - is needed larger.. like 36 inch maybe
     
  8. Jacob S

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    I remember Charlie mentioning on the Consumer Charlie Chat a few months back that the size of their SuperDish may be able to become a few inches smaller but that would be about it for reducing the size of it once the new satellite is launched.

    From what I understand it is the different frequency in which has a lower power in addition to the satellite orbital locations being close together for the reason that the SuperDish has to be bigger.
     
  9. James Long

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    :rolleyes: OK :rolleyes:

    AMC-15 will launch to 105º "during the second half of 2004"

    The big problem with the current 105º bird, AMC-2, was that it was designed for an entirely different slot. AMC-15 is DESIGNED for 105º, with a foot print that covers the whole US and not just most of it.

    You'll still need a superdish or equivilent to pick up AMC-15, as it will still be a lower powered FSS dish. Not *AS* low powered as AMC-2, but not as strong as a DBS satellite.

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    But still .. what i was asking i guess would be something like - when new satellite goes to 105..and signal strenth becomes there stronger (that's what they say anyhow), will it be sufficient then to go lets say with 30 or 32 inch round dish at 105, same as it's sufficient now to go with 30 or 32 inch at 121 now? ;)
     
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    That would be a fair assumption.

    A pizza sized dish, supersized!

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  12. Darkman

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    Ya i d think so too...

    so 121 is then low powered FSS also? ..or it's DBS sat?
     
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    Darkman, 121° is FSS also.

    As of now the only DBS slots for the US are the familiar 61.5°, 101°, 110°, 119°, 148°, 157° and 177°

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    Eastern slots are right (61.5° E*,SA,V*; 101° D*; 110° E*,D*; 119° E*,D*)
    But in the west the slots are 148° (all E*); 157° (E*4 on three transponders, the rest up for auction); 166° (no satellite yet, up for auction); and 175° (no satellite yet, up for auction).

    The auction for the rest of 157° and all of 166° and 175° will be held this summer. Each slot is auctioned seperately, but if you win you get all the transoinders available! Good news for E* and D* who could use a western orbit, bad news for V* and SA who don't really need 29-32 transponders (although V* could live with 29 or more).

    And the FCC is still discussing 4.5° separation with most of the commenters saying it is none of the FCC's business to license satellites in slots not assigned to the US. Those, if ever approved by the FCC and really the ITU, would be DBS slots but may be at a lower power initially to prevent interference to receiving their neighboring 9° birds. (The real issue is on the ground, dishes designed for 9° separation. But that's another thread.)

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  15. mini1

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    so, did Portland, ME make it up yet or are still waiting?
     
  16. JohnH

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    No, it is not available. Latest info from a dealer in the area, says May 5-6 time frame.
     
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    OK, Mark Duffy just got back to me today. The official word from his is May 6th, and they may be including local ABC by that time, which Charlie said would be missing before.
     
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    Portland Locals are scheduled for May 6th...They had announced the 29th of april but they decided to wait because they are have issues with the WMTW 8 (ABC)...That has been fixed and all should be up an running.

    Come on baby :D
     
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    so is Portland ME still on for tomorrow? Mark Duffy takes more than a day to reply, so I would know until after it has happended if I ask him again. does anyone have any idea?
     
  20. JohnH

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    Check your qualifications at the DISH Network site.

    The market has been turned over to the subscriber system.
     
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