A little background. I was a loyal Directv subscriber for about 9 years and about 2 years ago in February I got a HDTV and upgraded. It was great for two months until the leaves on my trees grew back in and blocked the dish. I had 3 installers show up (actually 1 didn't even show after I waited for 10 hours on a Sunday) after that and run off before fixing the problem (not even trying to move the dish). By then I gave up and got comcast for two years (which was a good deal for about 1 year - and now is outrageously expensive with less content in HD than Directv by far). The other day, I located where my dish needs to be for 5 satellites using the sun/shadow method (from this forum). My old dish (which is still on my roof) will be in the shade for the 119 Sat and 110 Sat. I assume that one of those Sats carried the HD channels 70-80 then. Finally, my questions. Do I still need to have access to those two western Sats (I am in the DC area)? If an installer comes out, I have a feeling, they'll see the dishes on my roof (and old round one, and newer oval HD one) and just connect them again. Should I go on my roof and take down those old Sats and get a brand new one? Thanks for any help. I loved Directv when I had it, but got so frustrated with the installers. Hopefully, I'll get a better one this time. BTW, I probably will order 2 HD/DVR's and 2 regular receivers. I may need to replace an RG59 cable upstairs with two RG6 cables for the HD/DVR(which I can do myself if the installer is going to charge me a lot to do this).