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Revelation 18 - moved from the War on Terrorism Forum

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  1. Guest

    I want to comment on this book and chapter for you guys. I think this is very important.

    18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

    We all seen Satan's face on the WTC building. He now has a short time to roam the Earth and install his world government that is being installed under the guise of fighting terrorism. This attack was planned by the most evil people on earth. They now gave the regular people a crisis to take over and control them. John Asscroft and the Congress is now passing laws to steal our freedom and privacy when these bastard have all the tools in the world to stop this crap if they really wanted to. Like Echelon and their other BS! This is an attack on the American people while the rag-heads roam the country freely.


    18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

    This is modern day New York City. This is the world's economic center and the modern day Babylon. All the kings of the world have profited on this whore. No other city fits this prophesy. This is a city of sin!

    18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

    The WTC is only the beginning of God's judgement. If you're a christian, get the hell out now.

    18:5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

    This is correct. We have killed over 40 million babies under the "right" for womens' bodies to kill their offspring. This is the world's center of perversion and fornication. This city's sins in fact reaches up unto Heaven. God is no longer blessing this evil country and city. If we don't repent of our sins, God is going to let millions die in the next attack.

    18:7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.

    Nope! No sorrow or repentence at all. She says lets rebuild the two towers of Babal.

    18:8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

    The WTC is only the beginning. More is yet to come.

    18:9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,

    Yes, we already seen this. That is a center for movies
    and music that praise fornication and homosexuality. God help us. Yet she will not repent of her sins as predicted.

    18:10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.

    Yep, In one hour these two towers fell. Make no mistake of God's word. The worst is yet to come.

    18:11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:

    We won't be able to buy their cheap goods anymore.

    18:15 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,

    This will be over the stock crash and a "suitcase" nuke going off.

    18:21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

    NYC is going to be destroyed, period!

    18:22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee;

    Amen!

    It's time to find the Lord Jesus Christ. He wishes for all of us to be saved if we only listen to his word and accept him into our heart. Read the book of Matthew and get to know your Lord. The WTC attack is a wake up call. More destruction is coming. God is only going to give us a short time until the next round of attacks will happen. Repent of your sins and turn to God. You may not get another warning or chance. The judgement of God is upon us and the world government of the anti-christ is at hand.

    1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to show unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
    1:2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.
    1:3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

    Jesus is coming soon. Are you ready to meet your maker?
     
  2. Guest

    No flow-control problem now. God has now equipped me to tell you the truth. He wishes for you to accept him as your Lord God and savior. He doesn't want you to perish. Get out of the lodge now and read his word.
     
  3. Guest

    Hey Rage have you been reading the"America The Whore" letter? Bring your ranching up to date bro.
     
  4. Guest

    And head to Afghanistan with the rest of the kooks in the talaban. You are a prime example of how religion perverts a person. Religion and greed are the cause of 99% of the suffering in the world, eliminate all religions and we're down to 25% of the suffering.

    I can't even say I feel sorry for you since there is obviously no hope for you. You are so wrapped up in your nonscene you couldn't see reality if it was in front of you.
     
  5. Guest

    So you think God killed 5000 people in New York as partial punishment for abortion? Rage, don't you think God might be even more upset about the 100 million children who have died as a result of poverty in the past ten years than he is over the 40 million abortions over 30 years? Are you ready to start coffing up the bucks so that these kids can have a decent life. If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.
     
  6. Guest

    Lets see, here were all the signs of the "End Times" (I have missed some, feel free to add them) ...

    1) The Barbarians plundering Rome

    2) The Crusades

    3) The Black Plague in Europe

    Big gap, wish I took more european history...

    4) Napoleon conquring large parts of Europe

    5) World War I

    6) World War II

    I was watching public access TV on cable at a friends house and some Black Israelite group says that their leader is in Jail and he is causing all these things to occur until he is released. Maybe they are right?

    I like to think things match the Billy Joel song "We didn't start the fire"

    A good quote is "The worlds been burning since the worlds be turning". I think that says it all!!!
     
  7. Guest

    "So you think God killed 5000 people in New York as partial punishment for abortion?"

    No, he let it happen and took his hand of protection away from this country.

    Abortion, R-rated movies, evil music, pornography, drunkards, drug addicts, homosexuals and what have you all combined for the blessings of God to lift his hand of protection.
     
  8. Guest

    Rage says:
    " No flow-control problem now. God has now equipped me to tell you the truth. He wishes for you to accept him as your Lord God and savior. He doesn't want you to perish. Get out of the lodge now and read his word."

    Firstly, glad you found the solution to your posting problem. At my age, flow control problems can mean something else! :)

    Now as far as "getting out of the lodge", I would have to weigh that decision like this:

    On one hand I could listen to kooks, fanatics, and liars who have little to show, other than a mean-spirited misanthropy and a lack of real accomplishments. Groups who spend their waking hours thinking they know the will of God or who bask in the paranoia of non-existent conspiracies.

    On the other hand, I can continue my participation in a fraternity which gives over 2 million dollars EACH DAY to worthy causes. A brotherhood which treats thousands of children each each at absolutely no cost to them or their families. A Lodge which gave over a million dollars to the families of victims of the WTC - less than three days after the attack. I could continue to identify with men of character - brothers like George Washington, Ben Franklin, John Hancock who helped found this great country. Men of honor like Davy Crockett and other Masons who fought at the Alamo. Modern political leaders from FDR to Barry Goldwater. Explorers from Lewis and Clark to John Glenn, Gus Grissom, and Buzz Aldrin. Entertainers who stood for America's character like Gene Autrey, Roy Rogers, John Wayne, and Red Skelton. I could go on and on with a list of notables, past and present.

    Yep, its a hard choice.... NOT!

    Somehow, I think God understands my decision.
     
  9. Guest

    Did God take away his protective hand when each of the following happened...

    1) The British tried to stop "Our Little Rebellion"?

    2) The War of 1812 happened?

    3) The Civil War happened?

    4) The Influenza Outbreak around 1920 that killed millions around the world?

    5) The Great Depression happened?

    6) The Dust Bowl happened?

    7) Pearl Harbor was attacked?

    :cool: Vietnam happened?

    So each time something good happened his hand was back helping us because we did something he liked and when something bad happened we did something that angered him?????????

    Nothing like free will, or anything like that.

    Bad Things happen to good people and good things happen to bad people, and that is just LIFE.

    Gee, I guess we must have been so saintly from 1991 thru 2000, since many-many people lived such good lives for so long. I'm really sorry that in the year 2000 we acted so different that we lost the protection of the Hand of God. What a difference a day makes.
     
  10. Guest

    :cool: Vietnam Happened

    was not intended as a :cool:

    Was intended as

    8 ) Vietnam happened.
     
  11. Guest

    Two questions

    1) What do you consider evil music (for me evil music is teen pop ;) )

    2) Whats so bad about R rated movies? I own about 150 of them.

    Steve
     
  12. Guest

    Rage, quit ducking the issue. What proof do you have that we were ever under some special "hand of God" that no other nation had?

    BTW, on the "end of the world" don't forget Desert Storm. I actually gained members at my church from that one because the more fundamentalist churches were hitting the "end of the world" theme so heavy that some families whose kids were getting scared to death switched to my church.
     
  13. Guest

    And BTW Rage, what about those 100 million kids who died from poverty? What do you think God thinks about you letting that happen? At least RLW is doing something to help. I think you're in trouble with God. You better help some poor kids real quick, before an airplane slams into your house.
     
  14. Guest

    "Two questions

    1) What do you consider evil music (for me evil music is teen pop )

    2) Whats so bad about R rated movies? I own about 150 of them.

    I'm against stuff that promotes this:

    [Mat 15:19] For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, fornication, theft, false witness, slander.

    [Mat 15:20] These are what defile a man; but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile a man."

    Add promoting booze and drugs to that list. There are more though.
     
  15. Guest

    "Rage, quit ducking the issue. What proof do you have that we were ever under some special "hand of God" that no other nation had?"

    He hasn't blessed us and made us the strongest nation in the world? Israel needed a friend to get going IMO, and we were it. And the other reason that I gave you yesterday.

    "BTW, on the "end of the world" don't forget Desert Storm. I actually gained members at my church from that one because the more fundamentalist churches were hitting the "end of the world" theme so heavy that some families whose kids were getting scared to death switched to my church."

    Well good for them. At least they were talking and watching for it and rightfully so. Bless their hearts.

    [Rev 9:13] Then the sixth angel blew his trumpet, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar before God,

    [Rev 9:14] saying to the sixth angel who had the trumpet, "Release the four angels who are bound at the great river Euphrates."

    [Rev 9:15] So the four angels were released, who had been held ready for the hour, the day, the month, and the year, to kill a third of mankind.

    [Rev 9:16] The number of the troops of cavalry was twice ten thousand times ten thousand; I heard their number.

    WW3 will happen in this area and 2 billion (a 3rd) will die. I also believe that this includes 200 million Americans. That river runs through Turkey, Syria, and Iraq.
    They were wise to watch out for this. But this will happen very soon unless there is mass repentence and I don't think it's going to happen.



    "And BTW Rage, what about those 100 million kids who died from poverty? What do you think God thinks about you letting that happen?"

    What blasphemy. They died because of their and others sin. Shame on you, Bogy!

    "At least RLW is doing something to help. I think you're in trouble with God. You better help some poor kids real quick, before an airplane slams into your house."

    You are lost. Since when do you get to Heaven with works you wicked preacher?

    [John 3:16] For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

    [John 3:17] For God sent the Son into the world, not to condemn the world, but that the world might be saved through him.

    [John 3:18] He who believes in him is not condemned; he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.

    [John 3:19] And this is the judgment, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

    [John 3:20] For every one who does evil hates the light, and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed.

    [John 3:21] But he who does what is true comes to the light, that it may be clearly seen that his deeds have been wrought in God.


    It says nothing about feeding children as the way to the Father. Jesus says I'm the only way to the the Father. And if you reject the Son, you reject the Father. Likewise, If you reject the Father, you reject the Son.

    You need to get to know the Father.
     
  16. Guest

    Throught history the Book of Rev has had its own cult following. Perhaps one day they mightl get it right.
     
  17. Guest

    Blasphemy? Do you even know what the word means?
    "About this same time Jesus was told that Pilate had given orders for some people from Galilee to be killed while they were offering sacrifices. Jesus replied: Do you think that these people were worse sinners than everyone else in Galilee just because of what happened to them? Not at all! But you can be sure that if you don't turn back to God, every one of you will also be killed. What about those eighteen people who died shen the tower in Siloam fell on them? Do you think they were worse than everyone else in Jerusalem? Not at all! But you can be sure that if you don't turn back to God, every one of you will also die." Luke 13:1-5
    This is your warning Rage, turn back to God. People don't die because of their sins (unless they get drunk and drive, but then, they usually kill others, not themselves). Little children are not starving to death because of their sins. They are starving to death because you want to buy a cheap Dish receiver, because you want an inexpensive pair of Nikes. They die so you can have a good life, and because you are to self centered to insist that our multi-national companies pay their workers living wages, because you are to cheap and self centered to insist that our nation, if it has been blessed by God, share that blessing with the rest of the world as God intended, by paying higher taxes if necesary. They die because of your sin of omission. Because you don't care, and its to easy to blame the victims. But God does care, and he does command that you care. And I am very concerned because you are going to have to answer for your lack of caring.
    "But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you,
    bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you.
    If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also. If someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic.
    Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back.
    Do to others as you would have them do to you.
    "If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even `sinners' love those who love them.
    And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even `sinners' do that.
    And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even `sinners' lend to `sinners,' expecting to be repaid in full.
    But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked.
    Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful." Luke 6:27-36

    Rage, do you have to have everything spelled out for you? Are you familiar with Ephesians 2:8-9?
    "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God--not by works, so that no one can boast." It says we are saved by faith, and even more, by God's grace. But it is very important not to do what many have done down the years, and which you are now doing, to forget that verse ten follows verse 9, and it says:
    "For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do."
    You are expected, even required, to do good words, not to save yourself, but to honor God. You think sins are only things that we do, they are also things that we don't do, including not honoring God by doing the things he expects us to do, like helping the poor.
    Deuteronomy 15:7 "If there is a poor man among your brothers in any of the towns of the land that the LORD your God is giving you, do not be hardhearted or tightfisted toward your poor brother."

    Rage, do you realize that many of the times when the Jews got into trouble with God, it was because the poor were being mistreated.
    Deuteronomy 15:7 "However, there should be no poor among you, for in the land the LORD your God is giving you to possess as your inheritance, he will richly bless you."
    If God has "lifted his had of blessing" from this nation, it is because we have not treated the poor of this nation, much less the world in righteousness and justice, displaying God's love, mercy and
    grace. Get your priorities straight, Rage, I'm worried about you.
     
  18. Guest

    "Blasphemy? Do you even know what the word means?"

    Yes and it has its consequences. Rush Limbaugh told a caller on his show that the Book of Revalation is "mumbo jumbo and doesn't belong in the Bible."

    [Rev 22:18] For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

    [Rev 22:19] And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

    Now we all know why Rush has gone deaf. You do not mock the word of God in front of millions of people and expect to get away with it.

    "This is your warning Rage, turn back to God"

    No worries. I repent of my sins.

    "Little children are not starving to death because of their sins. They are starving to death because you want to buy a cheap Dish receiver, because you want an inexpensive pair of Nikes."

    Hogwash! Go read the parable of the woman with the perfume. There will always be poor and poverty. God took the people of Israel and scattered them for their sins in a land of famine and turned them into cannibals.
    Sin is the cause of all evil. If there wasn't sin then we would all be blessed and living in harmony.

    One E* dish system isn't going to save 100 million people let alone a few hundred.

    "They die so you can have a good life, and because you are to self centered to insist that our multi-national companies pay their workers living wages, because you are to cheap and self centered to insist that our nation, if it has been blessed by God, share that blessing with the rest of the world as God intended, by paying higher taxes if necesary."

    This and the rest or your post are complete hogwash opinions with nothing biblical about them at all. You're preaching socialism not God and his Bible.


    "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God--not by works, so that no one can boast." It says we are saved by faith, and even more, by God's grace."

    Right on about that. I don't disagree with you there.

    "If God has "lifted his had of blessing" from this nation, it is because we have not treated the poor of this nation, much less the world in righteousness and justice, displaying God's love, mercy and
    grace. Get your priorities straight, Rage, I'm worried about you."

    And don't forget that this is a wicked and perverted nation that's not repenting of their sins. Reaf the book of Revelation. This is God's wrath upon the face of the earth. Are you calling Jesus a liar? Are you saying that this is not going to happen and for the reasons he gives?

    [Rev 9:17] And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.

    [Rev 9:18] By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.

    Pay attention Bogy! God is going to let 2 billion people die because of his wrath and judgement. Go back to verse 13 out of the river Euphrates.

    Here: [Rev 9:13] And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God,

    [Rev 9:14] Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.

    This is the coming war against Iraq and Syria. The anti-christ and the new world order need to kill 1 billion Islams because they will not follow and can't be controlled under the coming anti-christ system.

    So after this attack, we now have a world coalition to go and get them all. Next then will be Christians or the body of Christ who can't be controlled either. Then they will march towards Israel and try to get rid of the last pain in their satanic but but we all should know what happens then?

    Don't believe me Bogy. This is not about me. Pray to the Lord to open your soul and heart and figure this out on your own with his blessing. We've always had a rivary but now I'm under the guidence of the Holy Spirit and before I wasn't.

    Not only does this attack give them a coalition against Islam, this gives them a brand new world government under the guise of fighting terrorism. And they get to tear down the last bastion of freedom left in the world, the USA, and now they are going to put us into a police state and try to scare everybody into taking the mark of the beast which may be the national ID card. The lord has told me that anybody who takes the new bio-card risk damnation of their soul.



    [Rev 9:19] For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt.

    [Rev 9:20] And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:

    [Rev 9:21] Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.

    And many aren't repenting now after this first and maybe last warning from God. Wake up and be blessed if God's willing.
     
  19. Guest

    Just a tip when you post you may want to uncheck the 'Emoticons' box. That way you wont get 0] .

    Steve
     
  20. Guest

    And here I thought it was the head of SATAN popping up in Rage's posts! :) :)
     

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