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Rumor: DirecTV High Definition Info 8-23-04

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Chris Blount, Aug 23, 2004.

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  1. Adam Richey

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    DirecTV has already said that TNT HD would be added along with Bravo HD+, but I don't think it will be added until AFTER Bravo HD+
     
  2. RAD

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    Gee, I wish I could barely hang on like Charlie, how many billion is he worth?

    Why would Charlie like Voom anyway, what compelling HD content does Voom have that E* isn't carrying already? He might want it for the transponders at 61.5 but with AMC-15 launching shortly does he really need it?
     
  3. stuart628

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    lets face the facts, Voom is falling and falling hard with 1 out of 5 subs cancelling , and even more cancelling before they even get it through bad installs and such, I dont see Voom being a very good buy for either D* or E*, but there is always stuff that goes on that we dont know about that being said, I agree with the statement earlier that says D* could just buy subs cheaper then buying Voom, and with that said I would also like to state, it probably would be better for directv to add channels at different times such as bravo, Tnt, instead of buying Gallery channel, and the Monster channel- what do you guys feel about that. plus I think this rumor thing has spread off into two different topics and confusing some
     
  4. n8dagr8

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    Whatever they do they need to do it ASAP, please :D . I can't get the OTA digital signal due to terrain issues (I swear I live in a freakin' bowl). So, the only HD channels I get are the ones over the satellite (minus CBS). I would love to see TNT or some movie channels in HD (sorry but I'm not really big into all the homosexual content that Bravo broadcast - queer eye, boy meets boy...but hey, maybe that's a big demographic that they figure will help margins). I'm sure they could negotiate to broadcast tennis or whatever on channel 84 when needed. Anywho, even these rumors excite me. I would LOVE to see CBS before the ETA listed, like maybe intime for the LSU at Auburn game on the Sept. 18th. Geaux Tigers!!
     
  5. quickfire

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    Hey I'll be one happy camper if D* can get TNTHD by September 11th...............CAN ANYBODY SAY..... NASCAR in HD AT RICHMOND.............YEAHAWWWWWW.........LOL.........as far as adding BravoHD and other channels that the majority of us D* subs CAN'T GET or truely dont want .....how about DirecTv use some of this new bandwidth to bring back the D* picture clarity/quality that was .......and I mean WAS absolutley crystal clear back in the mid 90's..........D* subscribers that have been with D* since about 1998 till NOW have no idea what the regular SD channels can look like if D* gives each channel enough bandwidth.........i would compare the SD channels to almost a true digital channel..like ABCDT,CBSDT,etc...Does anybody here in this forum feel the same way as I do about this?????
     
  6. jdspencer

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    The addition of these HD channels could push me over to the HDTiVo side of the fence.
    It's only money. :)
     
  7. Greg Bimson

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    No transponders were freed up from 110. I think this may have been a typo. :)

    DirecTV had approximately 55 local channels on 101, that have been moved to 119. That is between 4 and 5 transponders. However, DirecTV has added the 4 Harrisburg channels to the CONUS payload on 101, so there is still somewhere over 4 transponders free at 101.

    DirecTV had approximately 89 local channels at 119 on CONUS payload prior to transferring the channels to DirecTV 7S. That was between 7 and 8 transponders. DirecTV reallocated 4 transponders for spot-beam use. DirecTV also has the six South Bend and eight Tulsa locals on CONUS, which makes a net gain of about 2 transponders at 119.

    Therefore, over their entire DBS arc, DirecTV has freed up at least six transponders.

    Now, reminder number 1 is that DirecTV last year suspended some pay-per-view channels to broadcast Sunday Ticket channels. I would assume they'd do the same thing this year.

    Reminder number 2 is that DirecTV will need to allocate at least four transponders for the HD Sunday Ticket games.

    Reminder number 3: DirecTV has four HD channels at 110, along with the Asian package. By moving the five channel Asian package off of the one transponder at 110, and co-locating it with some of the channels at 119, DirecTV could put two more HD channels at 110.
     
  8. Combow

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    I'm glad Directv is adding HD Channels. The more Channel we add HD the more customers we will get. :D
     
  9. Mike123abc

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    DIRECTV probably has a big worry with Dish having all of 148. If they were to get a hold of VOOM, Dish could simply mirror VOOM on 148 for the west. Dish would certainly use the VOOM satellite since they really need a replacement for E3. All this points to VOOM going for huge $$ if it really goes up for sale.
     
  10. RAD

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    Yep, sorry meant 101.
     
  11. rkr0923

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    All I want is TNTHD!
    The Voom channels suck.....they can keep those
     
  12. todcox

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    I assume the D* BravoHD will be the same as the cable BravoHD that I recently switched from. If so, it does not show the same programming as the SD Bravo channel. They show a lot of musician documentaries, mostly filmed overseas. They are great for HD content but they rerun them often.
     
  13. DarinC

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    That makes no sense at all. What value would they get out of the purchase? The number of customers they would acquire is a drop in the bucket to DirecTV, especially when you consider that many Voom customers are already also DirecTV customers. The 61.5° slot isn't really worth much... they have less than half the licenses there, and it's not in a good position. DirecTV already has a TON of licensed bandwidth, all conveniently located in prime CONUS location, close to one another. In fact, they recently gave up one of the Ka slots which is close to 110° (can't remember the exact location)... that license would be worth much more to them than the 61.5° Ku license, and if they gave that up for nothing, why pay for 61.5°?

    So if they aren't going to use the hardware, don't need the 61.5° license, and wouldn't gain an appreciable number of customers, why would they spend money on this? Just to keep Charlie from getting it? That sounds kind of fishy.
     
  14. paulh

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    I thought that Rainbow 1 or whatever Voom named its satellite was a high power spot beam capable satellite that is currently working in orbit.
    Although it was under different management at the time, D* did buy up Primestar a few years ago, and did not use their Satellites (I think Primestar leased capability on the lower frequency than DBS band) or bandwidth. (And thanks to a bunch of shady E* dealers, did not get all their customers, either)
    Also, I think Primestar was another Satellite venture that was started, I believe, from a group of Cable companies. :confused:
     
  15. JohnH

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    TNT HD sucks. Next to no true HD there. Even NASCAR is upconverted 480 16 X 9.
     
  16. Greg Bimson

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    Actually...

    Primestar, if it were viable, would have moved all programming to the 119 slot with their own high-powered DBS bird.

    Instead, DirecTV bought Primestar, and received:

    Primestar customers
    Castle Rock Broadcast Center (uplink center)
    Tempo 2 (Tempo 2 was in orbit, later renamed DirecTV 6)
    Tempo 1 (Tempo 1 was being built, was renamed DirecTV 5 and launched)
    11 transponders at 119
     
  17. RAD

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    Are you sure about the Castle Rock center, or was there two of them? I remember when I got D* when it first went up they had one uplink center and had it on their web site, that was when Primestar was still in business.
     
  18. bonscott87

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    I have no opinion one way or another but it's not the first time, and certainly not the last time that a company has bought another just to shut it down. See Microsoft about 100 times over.
     
  19. Greg Bimson

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    DirecTV, since the moment it has been in business, had an uplink center in El Segundo, CA. It is known as the Los Angeles Broadcast Center (LABC).

    When USSB was in operation, their uplink center was in Oakdale, MN. DirecTV is reusing this uplink center, as DirecTV needed two more uplink centers in order to broadcast all the local markets that are on the 119 satellite, DirecTV 7S. DirecTV built their fourth uplink center in the DC suburb of Winchester, VA.
     
  20. RAD

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    OK, this got me a bit ticked off since I didn't think my memory was going that bad. Yes, I remember USSB (they had pictures on their web site showing the uplink dishes in a dome to keep the snow off and Castle Rock for D*, there was no LA uplink when D* first started. You might want to check: http://www.ubta-ubet.com/ubtv.php?ubtvmenu=aboutUbtv which has :

    DIRECTV programming originates from the Castle Rock Broadcasting Center in Castle Rock, Colorado, the world's first all-digital broadcast facility... no mention of LA.

    Will I bet my life on Castle Rock being first, nope, but I think you might be incorrect on this one.
     
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