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Runaway Bride: Guilty of Crime or Innocent Whacko?

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  1. May 2, 2005 #21 of 123
    Danny R

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    Just finished reading a new story in the Atlanta paper. Apparently she DID talk to the local Duluth police chief about being kidnapped directly. It wasn't just relayed to them.
     
  2. May 2, 2005 #22 of 123
    mainedish

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    If she had just told someone that she wanted a few days away none of this would have happened. If they do get married I hope the media stays away but I know they won't.
     
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    BobMurdoch

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    Community Service and a fine will happen. No prison time. Oh, and cue the $1 million deals for a book deal, Oprah appearances, and Playboy spread......
     
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    cdru

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    Hef doesn't go for people that scrawney does he?
     
  5. May 2, 2005 #25 of 123
    Ric

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    My guess is that social responsibilities may have played a big part of this. I don't know the families myself but since her fiance's family has a history in Duluth, my guess is they are pretty prominent. Duluth is one of the area's known for its money and I read in a past article that John Mason's family history is:

    Mason's grandfather, the late Dr. Miles H. Mason, practiced in the city for more than four decades. The medical office John Mason manages is the same practice his grandfather started in 1950. John Mason's father, Claude Mason, chose law over medicine, but he too established a name for himself as a Duluth mayor and judge.

    She comes from Gainesville, GA,which I am sure has its share of society but my guess is that the Duluth 'blue bloods' far outweigh the Gainesville society requirements.
     
  6. May 2, 2005 #26 of 123
    Neil Derryberry

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    it isn't worth wasting taxpayer dollars to try her. If anything, she might be charged with a misdemeanor.

    see www.11alive.com for better detail on the local news coverage.

    Neal Boortz put into words something that I was thinking about her upcoming wedding... it was planned to be huge! 600 guests, 28 in the wedding party.. that's just really freaking big. Maybe this was Mommy's wedding..

    Doesn't excuse her actions.. she is an adult. If Gwinnett County wants to go after her in a civil case, i'd say they have a better shot. Besides, a criminal trial costs the entire state money, a civil trial would only cost county money. I don't feel like paying for it.
     
  7. May 2, 2005 #27 of 123
    JM Anthony

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    "Holy smoke, Batman, loosen your belt a notch or two. You're starting to go brain dead!!"

    The very last thing our criminal justice system needs are bogus cases tyeing up the courts/jails. If anyone should serve some jail time, it's the idiot PA in Duluth for raising the prosecution issue in the first place. He's either running for reelection, a redneck, or both; but one way or another he's a couple of cards short of a full deck.

    Whatever costs were incurred, mostly occurred before the woman called from Sin City. That the local constabulary couldn't track this woman down after she'd used public transportation to get out of Dodge shows they need more experience under their belts in super sluething. Probably not a one of them has a genuine Deerstalker's cap, let alone a pipe and magnifying glass. Thank god this wasn't a real kidnapping.

    This woman and her fiance have suffered enough. Just let them be.
     
  8. May 2, 2005 #28 of 123
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    What concerns me the most are the people who were saying things like "I thought the husband did it"; these are potential jurors! He didn't do anything, but had the woman taken her own life in some remote locale and they never found the body, they probably would have charged the husband.
     
  9. May 2, 2005 #29 of 123
    dummyproof

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    Ya use'n da prison spell'n?
     
  10. May 2, 2005 #30 of 123
    AllieVi

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    This is a story that needs to die. I can't believe how many newscast hours are being wasted on this crap when so many more significant issues exist. The newspeople are responding to the public's interest, of course. That's an even more disturbing realization.
     
  11. May 2, 2005 #31 of 123
    Danny R

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    Giving it some fresh life, one of our local radio stations is now offering trips to Vegas, with the tag line, "Be the next Atlanta runaway bride!"
     
  12. May 2, 2005 #32 of 123
    dummyproof

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    The main reason this has to be prosecuted, is not to unduly punish her or her family, of whom were just as much the victims in this case as anyone, but prosecuting her will allow the DA to bind her to an agreement that she not be allowed to profit from her actions in the future.
    Movie deals, interviews, exclusive coverage of her eventual wedding etc., could actually turn this into a monetary windfall. Clearly an agreement must be reached that she not be allowed to profit from it, and should any monies be offered, they should be required to first reimburse the authorities, then if any excess income is obtained it should have to be directed to charity.
    There clearly has to be a deterrent to this type of activity.
     
  13. May 2, 2005 #33 of 123
    ntexasdude

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    Which is something I suspected all along. I could be wrong (and I hope I am) but maybe the whole gang is in on some kind of eleborate scam. There's a part that just won't let that notion die. We've just heard about similar media grabbing cases too many times. Most recently, Wendy's savory fingertip chilie. ;)
     
  14. May 2, 2005 #34 of 123
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    I've had a couple of weddings with 28 in the wedding party. Only nine attendants each, but with flower girls, ringbearers, Bible bearers, miniature brides and grooms (the most ridiculous thing anybody ever came up with, if you have never seen such a thing consider yourself lucky. Nothing like the 9 year old miniature bride deciding halfway through the service she needs to pee) it gets to be a circus. Generally by the time the couple comes to see me all this has already been planned and people have been asked, and I can't talk them out of it. I don't know about the bride, but there have been times I could have seriously have considered running away. :lol:

    Weddings can be a pain in the butt. Primarily because of mothers in law. And you have to deal with two of them. Generally, funerals are much better. At least the guest of honor isn't going to give you any trouble.
     
  15. May 2, 2005 #35 of 123
    News Junky

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    I'm not saying what she did wasn't irresposible. I'm only suggesting it isn't criminal. In order to be charged with a crime you have to show what law was violated. You just can't throw the book at her for being stupid. Calling 911 with a false report is a crime, yes. But in what jurisdiction? She called 911 in New Mexico. New Mexico has stated she they will not charge her. Let me create a time line.


    1. Crazy lady goes jogging and instead of coming home she catches the bus to Vegas. You and I could run off to Vegas today and not tell a soul. Its not illegal. What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.

    2. Boyfriend calls 911 in Duluth, Georgia. Boyfriend thinks foul play has occured. Still, no law broken

    3. Police and volunteer citizens comb Duluth looking for her costing the government bank and citizens their time. She didn't ask them to do so and as far as we know she might have been unaware of this effort. Even if she did know to my knowledge there is no law saying one must notify police if you know they're looking for you. Inconsiderate as heck but no law broken.

    4. Duluth police say they've expended all options and were calling off the search. No law broken.

    5. She travels from NV to NM and calls local cops saying she was kidnapped. A New Mexico state law was broken.

    6. She's picked up at the phone booth by local cops and at the station she admits to lying. The total expense incurred as a direct result of HER false claim to police was gas money from 7-11 to the police station. NM says they will not seek prosecution on the call to them.

    7. Duluth, GA spent all that money looking for her without a false report from her so they cannot claim her illegal report was the reason they looked for her because she didn't tell them to look for her and in fact had already stopped looking for her by the time she called police in NM.

    There might be a civil recourse but I think its totally unfair to charge the parents of an adult for her inconsideration. I also don't think Duluth can legally demand payment from her for expenses she did not request.

    Lets just all be happy there was a good ending. The worse outcome could have been finding her abused rotting body in a ditch. A better outcome would have been her escaping her captor(s) after having been raped repeatedly on the week of her scheduled wedding. This is the best outcome we could have hoped for. Safe and sound, unharmed despite being half out of her mind. If I were her boyfriend I'd be crying tears of joy.
     
  16. May 2, 2005 #36 of 123
    Danny R

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    5. She travels from NV to NM and calls local cops saying she was kidnapped. A New Mexico state law was broken.

    Having researched the matter a bit, I discovered she also talked with the Georgia police at this time too and also told them she was kidnapped, thus violating a Georgia law. Its possible she also violated a federal law as well, since this involved interstate communication during which this false report was made.

    I don't believe there is a requirement that the person be physically present when reporting a crime.

    Clearly an agreement must be reached that she not be allowed to profit from it, and should any monies be offered, they should be required to first reimburse the authorities, then if any excess income is obtained it should have to be directed to charity.

    Why is this a "clearly"? I think some community service is in order or a fine, but I see no reason why we should go after her future income potential. As a verifiable crazy person, its likely she will have significant trouble finding employment in the future, especially with a felony on her record. I see no reason why she shouldn't gain some money from this weird story.
     
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    I started laughing at this before I even clicked on the link. Good one!:lol: :lol: :lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
     
  19. May 3, 2005 #39 of 123
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    According to this CNN article, the wedding could easily have gone into 6-figures. I still find it funny and perhaps baffling that you have a 6-figure (or likely close to it), but you still request a $10 set of Pyrex bowls.
     
  20. May 3, 2005 #40 of 123
    News Junky

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    Possibly. You also have to admit that by the time she spoke with GA authorities in our time line they were not acting on her claim thus not costing the ga floks any money (by that time). In other words her conversation with GA did not cost the the tax payers.
     
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