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Rural customers should pay!!

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by Annihilator31, Mar 7, 2008.

  1. Annihilator31

    Annihilator31 Legend

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    Sorry, but I don't have leverage. The HSP here and Directv would rather see me quit than pay me more money. The fact is, installers make the same no matter were they live and it's been that way for a very long time. Directv has paid the same to the HSP's almost since it started. As for the three hour thing? If you don't believe me, bug off. There are more techs farther away that will eventually take up the slack but those customers are put on long waiting lists.
     
  2. Annihilator31

    Annihilator31 Legend

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    Sorry but at the moments, I am!!!!
     
  3. Annihilator31

    Annihilator31 Legend

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    Exactly. One can only write off so many miles and get credit for it. This year I wrote off my miles and ended up a few thosand in the negative. That sure doesn't look good on a finance statement.
     
  4. dodge boy

    dodge boy R.I.P. Chris Henry

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    Sorry....:D
     
  5. Annihilator31

    Annihilator31 Legend

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    Maybe you should just ignore this thread if it bothers you.
     
  6. joe diamond

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    Why stop?

    I don't think...you can kick HSPs around too much. They need more kicks. And the (you know the words) folks at DTV that close their eyes and hope nothing bad happens deserve what they get too.

    Competent Directv installations do happen, sometimes.

    But, the whole DTV installation thing COULD have been an introductory high school electronics intern program. The installations are easy enough the kids could have done them, made some money and moved on. Some would stay in the "industry."

    Instead they just embarrass themselves pretending they have an installation department. The trucks look cool, however.

    Joe
     
  7. joe diamond

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    He WAS concerned about a burned out starter and or battery.

    Joe
     
  8. joe diamond

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    New installers arrive with some sort of work ethic. IF they knew where they were going to end up they would not have considered working for the HSPs.(Home Service Providers)

    Installers get screwed on their money and overworked to the point of a safety issues. They quit and are replaced. It makes sense to DTV to train somebody to work for two weeks? Retention is not a four letter word.

    Brilliant!

    Joe
     
  9. Apr 8, 2008 #109 of 125
    brahuna

    brahuna Cool Member

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    I also did this. I just asked DirecTV to ship me the dish and equipment (they said no). When the installers arrived I said I would install everything and sign off saying they installed it so they would get paid. Worked out great.
     
  10. Apr 9, 2008 #110 of 125
    toober

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    Maybe the answer is simply to put hourly techs in company vans with fuel cards. I'm perfectly happy with my pay and don't care where I am working as long as I'm on the clock. It even encourages me to do a better job, as I'm not trying to make more by finishing sooner. I tell them they can route me whatever they want, I'll work at my own pace and ensure that every job is done right.
     
  11. TigersFanJJ

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    That wouldn't be the answer. The HSPs would lose too many techs because of the huge cut in pay. You may be happy making what you do (and there is nothing wrong with that) but many subs couldn't make a living at the rate of pay that the hourly guys get around here.

    Many hourly techs take their time. Not to make sure they do a good job but because they have no incentive to do a better and faster job. The few techs that did go from a sub to hourly would probably be even worse because they would always have in their mind that they should be getting four to six times the pay that they are making to do the same job. (Just want to be clear. I'm not grouping you in with this category as I can tel that you, like myself, take pride in what you do.)

    If you add the extra time to complete the job to the reduction in the tech force and you will get much more backlog and, eventually, no Directv contract because you can't keep up with the demand.
     
  12. crashHD

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    You're confused. There's no such thing as rich farmers.
     
  13. toober

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    I'm definately not talking about the $10 hourly that I've heard of some places paying, I couldn't work for that. I gross around $1100 a week without having to pay for fuel, supplies, or vehicle maintenance. I figure if I am making less this way, it's made up in the lack of headaches.
     
  14. Birdman79

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    But there's no way for you to make that working hourly unless you take your time(i mean really take your time).We were told at our HSP that we might be going hourly withing a year,starting at $12 dollars an hour!!!.And after getting your bonuses (passing %80 QC ,IRD phone hook ups)it should go up to $15-$16.I believe when this goes in effect a lot of techs will quit.Nobody goes past 50 hours here,hell i dont remember the last time i worked over 40 hours!!!,and to make what iam making now i'd have to put in at least 55 hours!!!:eek2:
     
  15. toober

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    I am making $20/hr and usually run about 50 hrs a week. Thankfully, it's slowed a bit and the past 2 weeks have been 40-45 hrs and I have a little more time with the family before summer gets here. I run the same speed year round, I don't milk the jobs, but they are done right.
    I may be a bit slower than others. When I was paid by the job, I was only averaging about $25 an hour. It would be a bigger difference if I were faster and making less than $20/hr.
     
  16. satguy22

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    The place where i worked went to hourly and lost over 90% of there help. They rent the trucks and give the techs gas cards and reduce thier pay by 60%. Told me i would save money. I told them they were wrong. They said that dtv told them they had to do this or not work for dtv. Sorry they are doing this to you too. The worker has no rights and they know it.
     
  17. Annihilator31

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    I guess that depends on how you define Rich. It's a known fact that last year farmers made some of the highest profits ever. The demand for corn and wheat is high and so is the pay. I'm no farmer, but most of my installs are for farmers, and let me tell you something, these farmers have some money and it's about time, they deserve it!
     
  18. crashHD

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    I guess it depends on what you're farming. If you're buying that expensive grain to feed livestock...it's not so hot. It cost more to feed the hogs I'm selling right now than I will get paid for them.

    Record prices do not equal record profits. Commodity prices have risen sharply in the last year, but there not the only thing. Fertilizer has tripled. Land has doubled or more, herbicides, seed, and fuel are always rising. Last year's prices produced decent profits. This year it will take those kind of prices just to cover costs.

    Last year's crops had good profit potential, though. Input(fertilizer,fuel,seed,etc) costs at the beginning of last year were still reasonable, and anybody that held on to their crop long enough to benefit from these rising costs had the benefit of selling at a high price crops that were produced with low inputs. Kind of a twisted version of the old "buy low, sell high" idea.
     
  19. TigersFanJJ

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    Yeah, that's not bad. I'd probably think long and hard about working for the HSP here if they paid what you are getting. The HSP guys in our area are getting $12 an hour. I'd probably have to sell my house and truck to live off that. :D
     
  20. satguy22

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    many of these customers may be left in the cold soon. as of the new year dtv has cut wages of installers by 50%. They now pay $20. on up grade.
     

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