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Samsung & RVU

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by itzme, Apr 5, 2011.

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  1. Alan Gordon

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    Prior to my TV getting fixed, the 6420 was one of the TVs I was looking at.

    I liked the PQ of some Samsung models released AFTER the 6420 better, but I really liked the idea of RVU (future proofing, you know!).

    The thing is, those newer models might have RVU as well, because even though RVU is not listed in the specs, neither are they in the 6420's (or the other two models mentioned in the press release). Hopefully, once the HR34 is released, Samsung will actually start promoting RVU in their RVU-capable sets.

    ~Alan
     
  2. itzme

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    I'm not laughing at all. I had a similar experience myself when I bought my 59D8000, which I'm loving! I can't wait until a few companies reveal the magic behind their curtains.
     
  3. Stuart Sweet

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    Yeah, the 6420 is really excellent. The opaque portion of the bezel is 5/8" thick, compared to about 5" on my previous TV. There is a 3/8" clear part beyond that. The picture quality is really excellent for an $1100 TV and honestly I don't miss local dimming, not with the ambient light in the living room being what it is.

    The only downside is that now I see what some of you boys were complaining about, picture-quality wise :lol:
     
  4. code4code5

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    I sprung for the 55" version, but it absolutely seemed to be a great value. MSRP is $2,300, but it is on permanent sale for $600 less Sam's club had their version, the 6450, for about $100 cheaper but I was willing to pay a bit of a premium for the guaranteed RVU capabilities.

    I certainly don't have any complaints about the image quality, and I kind of dig on the "soap opera effect." the motion is what makes these televisions ultra realistic.
     
  5. zimm0who0net

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    Where are people getting the idea that the 6420 shipping today will have RVU? The only reference I can find on this is the press release back in January, but I wouldn't take that as Gospel. There's nothing on the Samsung web site about RVU under the specs.

    I've had very bad luck with Samsung in the past with respect to "future" upgrades. I bought their top of the line LED TV two years ago. Press releases said it would eventually get Netflix support. Never happened. Lots of discussion on the boards, and talk of "class action lawsuits", but nothing ever came of it. Pretty standard operating procedure with Samsung. They'd rather force you to buy their new model rather than upgrade old models.

    Furthermore, until you actually see how the RVU is integrated it's not particularly safe. For instance, my TV does actually have YouTube support, but navigating to the app screen, launching the YouTube app, trying to navigate to a video, and then actually viewing it is so incredibly cumbersome and slow that it's completely worthless. I would imagine that if Samsung were to "upgrade" their already sold TVs, it's likely that any RVU support would be similarly clunky and cumbersome.

    Long story short, don't buy something until you've actually seen it and can play around with it.
     
  6. itzme

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    The good news is that I didn't buy my 59D8000 based on in having RVU, in fact that wasn't even one of the models in all the gossipy press releases. But it is the model I wanted and I have no remorse. Some of us got our hopes raised when others said that the hardware or chipset in any/all 2011 SmartTV models would likely support RVU.

    But you very well could be right with regard to your theory and Samsung's history. I haven't gotten my RVU hopes up much higher than wishful optimism, that I might have the sleeping dragon (or just a frog) inside my machine.
     
  7. grassfeeder

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    just one of the many reasons why I'm not buying a set for other rooms until I see RVU in action and know how it's going to play out, both hardware/software and current Samsung models....
     
  8. code4code5

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    I certainly can appreciate the logic of not getting your hopes up, but I don't think most people buy televisions that often. I don't have a lot if money, so when it cones time to splurge on a new piece of equipment I shop the ever-loving crap out of the options available. When considering a feature set, I would like the best opportunity to "future proof" I can.

    Back in 2001, I bought an AV Receiver with 7.1 analog inputs even though 7.1 surround in the home wasn't under consideration yet. I didn't make use of them until I got a blu-ray in 2009, but I didn't need a new receiver to make the best of my new equipment. I bought the TV with the hope that it will extend my directv experience in the future, but I won't swear off the brand if that doesn't happen.

    My philosophy is that you can never expect anything more out of any machine than it had when it left the factory floor. Everything else is gravy. ;) To be on the bleeding edge of hardware, one has to respect Moore's Law and expect their equipment to be out of date within one year.

    I'm sorry that you were disappointed with your unit's software. Samsung's clients for DLNA networking in these units are clean, fast, and smooth. If that's any indication as to how the tv will handle directv, I'll be very happy.
     
  9. code4code5

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    Samsung has released a new firmware for the UN**D6*** series units with these firmware notes:

    1. Title
    Firmware for LED TV D60** / D64** / D6500 series (ver. 1025.0)
    2. Applicable Model
    D6000SF / D6050TF / D6400UF / D6420UF / D6450UF / D6500VF
    3. Carrier or Corporate Customer
    all customers
    4. Description
    - Including RVU feature and available Amazon app.
    - Enhance firmware security
    - This firmware will decrease flickering problem on 3D mode. (only 3D model)
    - Change the way to get out of Store Demo Mode
    - Change the type of information of Info banner
    - Prevent escaping issue when pressing volume button on video apps(Netflix, Vudu, etc)
    - Support Remote Service
    - For netflix 3.1 service.

    Game on!
     
  10. Stuart Sweet

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  11. Paradox-sj

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    Has Samsung put out a list of their 2012 models with RVU support?
     
  12. dielray

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    RVU certified devices can be found here:
    http://www.rvualliance.org/products
     
  13. harsh

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  14. Rickt1962

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    Has anyone checked out the ES6100 ? 40" It says its only 120mhz was wondering if it had the screen door effect ?
     
  15. harsh

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    Samsung's propaganda page says the ES6100 employs a 240 CMR display. Of course this doesn't mean much in a world of misleading advertising statistics. Please not that the rate is in Hertz, not Megahertz.

    If it is an LCD, it probably has SDE. Whether or not you would notice it depends on where you're sitting in relation to the screen.
     
  16. harperhometheater

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    Yes, screen door effect (SDE) is in relation to resolution/pixel count, not refresh rate. The 120, 240 Hz "features" reduce what is known as "judder".
     
  17. Stuart Sweet

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    Guys, this is a pretty old thread. Let's start a new one for new discussion. And to answer the question, all Samsung "ES" series TVs are supposed to have RVU support now. I can't confirm that with a list but that's what I'm told.
     
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