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Samsung Smart TVs Firmware 1024 and higher (RVU support) - Issues/Discussion

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Stuart Sweet, Dec 10, 2011.

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  1. dconfer

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    I have the UN46 and UN55 D8000 series they both got the 1024 update. I dont have an HR34 so I cant try this. Thought maybe others might want to try. I dont even see the RVU on the input screen. Maybe you have to have one on the network for the input to show up.
     
  2. RAD

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    My PN51D8000 was able to download 1024 tonight and RVU/HR34 isn't showing up in the source device list, and I do have a HR34. Since Samsung didn't include this model when they announced RVU support not really expecting it.
     
  3. P Smith

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    I think you shouldn't assume if FW is the same version, it would be same for different models.
     
  4. dettxw

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    Unfortunately no RVU listed in the release notes on the Samsung support site for these model's 1024 firmware release like it is for the 6000 series. :(
     
  5. mjwagner

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    uh oh. I was planning on purchasing an HR34 and installing it myself in place of my aging HR20-700 once the HD GUI has been rolled out to the HR34's. Does this mean I have to call DirecTV and arrange a truck roll before it can be activated? What if I am just running it in MRV mode with no RVU's? What if I add some RVU TV's at some later point?
     
  6. Groundhog45

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    My understanding is that if you want to have an RVU compatible TV activated with your HR34, you need a DirecTV technician, who will be able to activate the client. If you just want the HR34, you can get one from Value Electronics or Solid Signal and do the install yourself. Not sure what will be required with RVU TVs in the future.
     
  7. Stuart Sweet

    Stuart Sweet The Shadow Knows!

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    Your understanding is right. I was kind of surprised that there's no self-install option for the Samsung TVs (although I did do a self install.)

    I think the feeling is that you need a coax line to the TV and a powered DECA and not everyone has that (although, again, I did.) So an installer has to run it.

    You also need a cheat sheet to tell you which buttons on the Samsung TV do what, or an RC70X remote. Most people don't have those things (although... you get the drill.)

    I was kind of surprised that hooking the coax line to the antenna input didn't work. I would have thought that would be the most elegant solution. But, alas, it didn't. Maybe the 2012 TVs will work that way.
     
  8. markrogo

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    Unless they build in MOCA capability, it won't.
     
  9. Strog

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    So CAT 5e\6 connection will not work? I would still need to run coax from H34 to the Samsung enabled RVU TV?
    Never had Direct before, planning on switching from Dish soon. Thanks.
     
  10. P Smith

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    Keep the network wire for now - when Samsung TV will support MOCA, then you'll need coax cable.
     
  11. Stuart Sweet

    Stuart Sweet The Shadow Knows!

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    Well yeah, I just had hoped they did that already.
     
  12. markrogo

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    I hope so, Stuart, since it's finally getting popular. Samsung is actually strangely cheap on the parts side of their TVs, however, so we'll have to see what the 2012 models bring. I'd hope the RVU stuff spreads in general. It won't affect me in the near future -- I'm not replacing working TVs to pay DirecTV the same fee anyway -- but it'd be the best thing for the future.
     
  13. inkahauts

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    Assuming they can install moca into their tvs that will work with any and all companies using moca, that would be a smart way to go for them. I think there are several companies using moca today, including TiVo, DirecTV, I think also Fios, and a few cable providers.
     
  14. Stuart Sweet

    Stuart Sweet The Shadow Knows!

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    It would be really great if they could build a general purpose MOCA adapter that works with the flavors used by the major providers.
     
  15. P Smith

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    While RVU support is FW (software) and could be cost one time development under a contract, the MOCA approach will be harder to accept by TV manufacturers as it require HW parts and software too.
     
  16. markrogo

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    They probably could if the thing was capable of receiving a bit of whatever unique code the various MSOs/sat cos. are using that's unique. I imagine this will be one of those things that happens over a decade, given the typical high speed that is things cable and satellite when it comes to standards.
     
  17. inkahauts

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    !rolling

    Yeah, an open source type of hardware that can pickup any moca style signal, and then just make the software able to work with any provider. I sure make it sound easy. :)
     
  18. LoweBoy

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    If it works they way you guys you say then having two HR34's to multiple RVU TV's would not be so cool because you can only see the recordings on the HMC you are connected to.

    I would think the H25 setups would be the better route to go with.
     
  19. harsh

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    MoCA is MoCA. It shouldn't depend on who your provider is as long as your RF frequency is supported.

    Entropic claims that MoCA 2.0 capable devices (not just testbeds) will be shown at CES but there don't appear to be any available (nor certified) at this time. The latest MoCA certifications (Arris, Cisco, ZTE) have been for MoCA 1.1 standard devices for use with frequencies >1GHz (D1-D8).

    Most, if not all existing DECA hardware was designed to an amendment to MoCA 1.1 (Mid RF Annex) and they don't appear to be certified by MoCA. I couldn't find any devices that were certified for use with satellite IF.

    Interestingly, the Echostar T2200S cable DVR is MoCA 1.1 certified.
     
  20. Stuart Sweet

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    You are only partially correct. For example, DIRECTV Ethernet Coaxial Adapters (DECA) pass MoCA traffic along different frequencies from other MoCA providers. I understand that Verizon also uses a non-standard MoCA system.

    It would be nice to see a coax in that understands all the flavors of MoCA out there.
     
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