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Satellite Grounding Question

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by SBacklin, Dec 30, 2008.

  1. SBacklin

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    Hey guys. My new sat system was installed about a week ago or so. I'm sure the guy didn't ground the system. We discussed it briefly. There doesn't appear to be a grounding point in the area where my dish has to be installed. The electrical boxes and such that are outside of the building are on the other side and upwards...(building is on a hill). What options do I have to have it grounded....if there is any. I know the thing where if a ground rod was installed that it is supposed to be bonded to the building's ground. Is there a distance thing to consider between rods? There are several buildings in the this neighborhood close together...would they have their own grounding source? If so, how would each not conflict with the building next door? I'm sure I have already experienced an issue due to static. The other day, there were strong winds and at one point, my DSL went out (connected to the DVR through router and ethernet cable), and both of my DVRs reset. My DSL is now fine after a reset of the modem. I would appreciate some input without the usual grounding arguing. Thanks.
     
  2. curt8403

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    is there a water pipe near the sat lines?
     
  3. SBacklin

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    I believe there is a outside faucet nearby and I believe that is it. LOL
     
  4. curt8403

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    as long as the water pipe is all metal (no plastic) it can be used as a ground source
     
  5. Richierich

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    Strong winds can cause "Static Electricity Buildup" which can disrupt your phone line, DSL, DVRs, etc. I would definitely get it grounded properly as that can be dangerous and cause alot of problems.
     
  6. bt-rtp

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    All you have to do is call DirecTV and open a service call. Just tell them that your recently installed system is not grounded. They take the issue of proper grounding very seriously.

    You don't have to get into all of the details with them on the phone. The installer or the supervisor is required to follow up and resolve the problem. Usually they are from a contract company called Mastec. They will correct the problem.

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  7. BattleScott

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    Strong winds also have a nasty affect on suspended power and comminication lines.
    Properly terminated coax will prevent any static buildup on the sat system. The Dish grounding is for protection from lightning energy.
     
  8. curt8403

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    that being said, it takes a heck of a strong wind to blow stray and unused electrons off of the overhead power lines.

    you get better results connecting about a thousand pounds of air pressure to the head end of a cable system to blow the old and stale electrons out of the cable system.
     
  9. davring

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    If lightning were to strike the dish, grounding, or lack of it, would no longer be an issue:)
     
  10. davring

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    Does it require positive or negative ion charged air?
     
  11. curt8403

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    positive/

    When I worked for the cable company, years ago, we used to call customers, and explain that we were blowing out the lines, and to prevent used electrons from scattering all over the house, they should place a paper bag over all their cable boxes. people actually did that, and 2 days later the local cable office would get a rash of calls asking if they could remove the paper bags.
     
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  13. SBacklin

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    I'm not the smartest guy on the block, lol, when you refer to properly terminating coax, you talking about plugging the lines into a surge protector of some kind, if not, what were you referring to?
     
  14. SBacklin

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    In other words, ground or no ground, your stuff and possibly other things are fried anyway by a lightning strike...right?
     
  15. bt-rtp

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    It's called a "ground block". It has a copper wire that is connected to a ground rod or a copper water supply pipe.

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  16. SBacklin

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    You answering my question on coax term?
     
  17. davring

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    All grounding typically will control is static build up. Proper grounding will keep all common electrical devices bonded together and prevent chain reactions from occurring if a device incurs internal shorting to ground. Surge protectors, USB's and essentially any aftermarket devices will not protect you, or your equipment, from a lightning strike.
     
  18. SBacklin

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    That is what I thought, lightning strike.....ground or no ground, you're screwed anyway, lol. If for some reason grounding outside will not be possible, will coax surge protectors be okay for the static?
     
  19. curt8403

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    no, they do not drain static, nor meet code.
    is there a multiswitch in the system? it can be used as a ground block
     
  20. Richierich

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    It depends how far away the lightning strike is. A friend of mine who lives north of here had a strike 1/2 mile from his house and alot of his neighbors all had their equipment fried but he didn't because he is on surge protection. It all depends upon the intensity of the strike.
     

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