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Scott/Solid Signal

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by gregftlaud, Jul 3, 2012.

  1. inkahauts

    inkahauts Well-Known Member

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    You just had an install of some sort done right? That's probably why.

    If you don't use a deca cloud, you need to put a bsf on the HR34 so that it won't output its network signal through the coax to the other receivers, which over time is not a good thing to have happen.

    The HR34 is the only unit that will bridge Ethernet to the coax network, like a cck.

    Personally, I'd get the one deca that you will need for your one other HR21 and be done with it. Ethernet plugs into the HR34 and would bridge the network, so everything would be happy and supported. A other say, someday, other than the HR34 I expect hat all new receivers and such will not even have Ethernet ports. They will be strictly coax networked to a deca cloud. Just look at the h25.
     
  2. inkahauts

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    He knows, the problem is you need a bsf if you have other units on the system that are not using deca, so that they don't get hit by the network signals. Vos can explain the technical reasons why you don't want this, but I think it has to do with voltage or something of that nature. the HR34 always outputs as though it's connected to a deca cloud so that's why he should use a bsf.
     
  3. gregftlaud

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    Ok again i'm not going to be using a 2nd receiver so a b band stopper wont be necessary on the HR34 right?

    This is what i asked a few posts ago:

    "Do i need to put the band stop filter on the HR34 if that is going to be the only receiver i'm using? I will have an ethernet plugged in though for on demand though."
     
  4. Jacob Braun

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    If its the only receiver and you're using Ethernet you won't need a band-stop filter.
     
  5. inkahauts

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    So in your entire house you will have exactly one receiver? You are going to turn off and return all others? Then a bsf is meaningless and you don't need it.
     
  6. gregftlaud

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    Yah see i havent made my mind up completely yet b/c i wont get my HR34 from solid signal til fri or saturday at the earliest. If i really like it and with the 5 tuners i really wont need another dvr (i might just unplug one and not de-activate it and keep it as a backup receiver). The only reason i even have a hd dvr in the bedroom is for the extra 2 tuners to utilize via my hardwired ethernet whole home dvr. I cant remember the last time i watched tv in the bedroom.

    Now of course if i change my mind and decide i want a receiver in the bedroom i already have a band stop filter on it's way from solid signal. Just to be prepared for any scenario.

    How do u hookup a band stop filter? Just like the b-band converters? Run the coax coming to the HR34 into the band stop filter then put the input from the band stop filter into the Hr34?
     
  7. Jacob Braun

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    Yep! See photo.
     
  8. Scott Kocourek

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    I'm sure this is a question for VOS but I think putting the BSF on the HR34 like that could cause permanent damage to the small RF transmitter that is in the 34 that converts the Ethernet into coax network (RF) because they both operate together.
     
  9. gregftlaud

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    Well i'm never going to use DECA on this receiver so does that matter?
     
  10. dpeters11

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    I wouldn't say never. What if you end up with a receiver in the future that doesn't have an Ethernet jack and you want it connected to the network? So far it's on,y the H25, but could be more in the future.
     
  11. inkahauts

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    It doesn't say if it's directional on it.

    Are you suggesting it should be placed further away?
     
  12. gregftlaud

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    Well if/when hd-dvr's with ethernet ports become obsolete and not in use or supported anymore then i'll cross that bridge when i get to it. I mean i had my hr20-100 and hr20-700 since 2007 before i replaced my hr20-100 with an HR21 and now getting an HR34 to replace my HR20-700.
     
  13. veryoldschool

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    Ethernet is dead at this house.
    WiFi or DECA works for what's needed.
     
  14. gio12

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    Thats what I did when I got my HR34 installed. :D
     
  15. gio12

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    I found Wireless and DECA to have the exact same performance in my 2 story house. I stuck with DECSA though, as I did not want the wireless adapter showing on my dresser. This was with 2 DVRs.
     
  16. Scott Kocourek

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    Why, I don't understand the resistance? If the HR34 is your only receiver then no you don't need a BSF, if you add another receiver that has built in coax network then it will automatically connect to the network via the HR34 so why run BSF's and connect Ethernet, seems like adding dongles just for the sake of adding them. Being that you'll have SWiM and an HR34 it would only be logical to use the coax network if you added another receiver.
     
  17. inkahauts

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    Upon further research, (thanks scott, vos) you'd want to place a bsf as far away as possible front the HR34, if for some odd ball reason you'd want todo that. Deca is just easier, and just plain works. Deca allows Whole Home Service even when your router is down or screwy. I truly see no reason to ever use an Ethernet network for your system when you have an HR34.
     
  18. luvmypriushybrid

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    I use ethernet cabling for my whole home and works fine for me.
     
  19. gregftlaud

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    Well I've been using hardwired ethernet/router for my WHDVR service since it was in beta stage and I've never had one single issue/problem with it. I just like it the way I have it. Just my personal choice.
     
  20. inkahauts

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    That's fine, but when you change equipment that conflicts with that design, it might be time to change that design to better fit the new hardware your adding. What you are using now,it wasn't designed with deca in mind from the ground up, so it didn't really matter. The hr34 was. I wouldn't change either just for the sake of changing with the equipment you have today, but when you add the hr34, id sunset the old way, as you now have real tangible reason too.. Just a thought.
     

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