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Screenshots of New HR20 UI (for photos and Music)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by dvrblogger, May 3, 2007.

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  1. tfederov

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    My big question is will the new GUI put the tracks on the CD in the correct order. It's kinda hard to listen to a CD like "LOVE" by the Beatles. It's meant to flow in a certain order. The way things work now, it's a shuffle regardless if I start at the first song (which isn't the first one on the PC) or I pick shuffle.
     
  2. Earl Bonovich

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    99% That is the MEDIA SERVER... the Media Server (Be it ViiV or WMP11, what ever), is the one responsible for that...

    As the Media Server reads the audio source, parse it, and converts it when it is requested to play.

    The HR20, just plays things back in the order that the Media Server sends it... (which is an XML file, that contains the descriptions...ect)

    The 1% I am leaving out, is in case it is doing some sort of ALPHA sort on the data once it gets it.
     
  3. tfederov

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    I'm also in agreement on the 99% part and even raise you a .5%. DIRECTV said and confirmed this came from Viiv. That was the main reason behind my wondering if Intel would be interested in CE'ing (is that a word?) Viiv software releases.
     
  4. dvrblogger

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    No connection between VOD and PCs these are independant and share your network connection.
     
  5. dvrblogger

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    The Intel rep and handout say video (PC to HR20 ) is coming soon. Most likely MPEG 2 and maybe MPEG 4 part 10 ( H264).
     
  6. stogie5150

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    + 1 Billion.:hurah:
     
  7. thekochs

    thekochs DirecTV 10yr+ Customer

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    Another way....no ViiV....no MCE.....no transcoding slowdown.....includes video....no UPnP....just traight forward. ;)

    http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=80312
     
  8. Duffinator

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    That looks great, I can't wait to get my second HR20 for my HT where I have an existing network connection.

    Does anybody know what resolution the photos get displayed as? Does the HR20 rescale them to 1080i or ??? My Hauppauge Media MVP only displays 640x480 and I'm hoping for higher resolution.
     
  9. g4jedi

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    I wish we Mac people could do this easily. :(
     
  10. AMGPilot

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    Any word on when multi room viewing (sharing recordings between two or more HR20's) will be available?
     
  11. dvrblogger

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    currently photos are displayed at 480 lines of resolution not HD.
     
  12. Duffinator

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    Bummer.

    Any plans of increasing the resolution?
     
  13. Jeremy W

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    Don't count on it ever being available.
     
  14. Agrajag

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    This looks to me to once again be way too little way too late.

    When is someone like DirecTV going to install an Xbox and run XBMC and then start using that as the goal to beat?

    This has extremely limited codec support, no real support for Internet streams, RSS, local storage, visualizations, album art, band bios, etc. They could do so much more with this to make it a feature that will draw in customers instead of just being an afterthought.
     
  15. Earl Bonovich

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    Well... frankly... because they are not competing with products like that.
    The HR20 is an HD-DVR first, with then features on top of it, to give some more functionality to it's end users...
     
  16. Jeremy W

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    Some people will never be happy. Why not complain that an Xbox with XBMC doesn't have any DVR functions? XBMC does some things, and the HR20 does others. There is some overlap, but they are two very different products.
     
  17. g4jedi

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    When will they implement the beer cooling feature into the HR20? Or what about the automatic back massager?

    Seriously, Earl hit the nail on the head. It's a DVR first and a media center link as an added bonus. And as we know, a mediocre one at best. You either have to HACK your machine to do it or buy a new PC with this special ViiV chip... and we Intel Mac users have it even worse.

    BUT... remeber the old DirecTiVos? Getting those things to work with your PC was a real bear and totally unsupported by D*. At least they have SOME support for this kind of feature now.

    Personally, I'd rather have dual buffers anyway. But I'm not holding my breath... and that is a totally different subject.
     
  18. RAD

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    Dripping...
    I wouldn't calling installing a 3rd party software package such as Twonkeyvision a HACK to a system.
     
  19. Jeremy W

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    Or first party software like WMP11.
     
  20. Agrajag

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    That's short-sighted thinking on their part then.

    The idea is to have a home media CENTER. This device already opens that door and past comments spoke to DirecTV wanting in on this turf.

    The bottom line is that a DVR is the ONE device that people almost universally have no trouble with it being available at all times (given the nature of its core task).

    Thus it makes perfect sense for this device to also work with other media. It'd be like arguing that a receiver should only work with radio.

    Jeremy, the reason that neither the Xbox or the HR20 has succeeded as a full-blown Media Center is that neither of them got the variables right. Same thing for TiVo with their failed HMO attempt (few regular consumers give a SQUAT about streaming content from their PC).

    I've watched the industry scream, for decades, that they could do all this if only consumers would accept a device in their house that they would leave on so that everything could work from it. They have it now and yet the software still isn't there.

    My HR20 can record, store and play back video. Why can't it do the same for music? Why should that be such a huge leap? Again, think of a receiver and all the features it provides that qualify as overlap but it provides it all the same. Why couldn't the HR20, likewise, store and play back my digital photos?

    To provide a half-assed media connection is a WASTE OF TIME. It will not provide enough functionality to make more than a few fanatics happy. Either do the job right or don't do it at all. To applaud the current efforts is to give support to a flawed plan.

    G4Jedi, yes, I agree on the TiVo. It too was a failed plan but people like some posting here posted on their forums the same supportive messages and TiVo just continued on blindly. They figured, based on the feedback they were getting, that everyone would dive onto the bandwagon. Then they released it and the fanatics bought it and then no one. Then the priced dropped. Still no one. Dropped again. Still no one. Then it was free and still no one cared.

    Think about how IDIOTIC that plan was. Here you have a box. It can record, store and play back VIDEO. Then, when it comes time for TiVo to think about their device as a media center, what do they do? They decide that audio and photos should be streamed from your PC?!?! Whoever came up with that should have been fired for incompetence on the spot. It made no sense to anyone except a bunch of nerdy network admin-types that thought it was awesome (and that's who fills those kinds of forums, thus the danger of paying attention to your own fans).

    Yes, to play a single song you needed to have a TiVo, have a PC, keep both on, install server software, understand it, install a wireless or wired network, a router, understand it, manage it. All that to play a song.... Yeah, that makes good sense. Try explaining that to the masses who couldn't program their VCR's but love their TiVo's.

    MOST people do not keep their PC's on 24/7. The HR20 is likely to be the only such device that stays on in many homes. Why not leverage that into something beneficial?

    Plus we're talking about content that is a FRACTION of the size of video. I could store all of my music and photos on a small segment of my HR20 and not miss it. I'd also gladly then add another drive, or a larger drive. If the device handled it all WELL I'd also be VERY unlikely to consider leaving as no one else could provide this for me. Imagine DirecTV offering an upgrade to the HR20 that perhaps was a drive and a DVD tray for ripping content onto it. I'd be all for it.
     
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