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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by quickfire, Oct 14, 2007.
it would be hard to justify the SEC channel, cuz nobody watches the SEC
Huh? Are you talking about the Big 10?
University of Chicago, Illinois, Michigan, Minnesota, Northwestern , Purdue, and Wisconsin were the originals in 1895 (7). Indiana and Iowa joined in 1899 (9). Ohio State joined in 1912 (10). Chicago dropped out in 1946 (9). Michigan State joined in 1949 (10). Penn State joined in 1990 (11). So out of 113 years it's been 7 teams for 4 years, 9 teams for 16 years, 11 teams for 18 years, 10 teams for 75 years, and never 12 teams.
The Big Ten is an academic conference defined by more than sports. University of Chicago is an original and current member.
Looks like you have been drinking some of that Comcast Kool Aid.
IMO the BTN has been a huge success. Did not have to buy Gameplan this year (except OSU Purdue Night Game). All of the games on BTN are HD (and all should be available in HD on D* but thats another discussion.) The Gameplan channels always had sub SD quality. So bad the letters in the score bug were constantly pixelated. The SD versions of BTN network games have been better than Gameplan. All of the BTN games last year were SD ESPN Plus channels. When watching ESPN now, all of the updates on SEC games on Lincoln are always in SD. My D* bill did not go up directly due to the adding of BTN. It actually went down with out the $109 Gameplan charge.
True the games are no longer available in local markets off air, but I do not know anyone that does not have either cable or Satelite coverage today. Cant get ESPN off air either.
BTN is a great deal, just need to dump Compcrap or Time Warner.
I hope you guys get your SEC network. It is worth it.
An SEC network would be great. A couple times a year (including this week
against Vandy, though at least it's a home game in Real Definition), Carolina
plays on either PPV or Lincoln Financial, both of which suck when it comes
to video quality... bad SD... ugh.
Having those games hit the SEC Network instead in HD would be great! I just
hope they can keep the stupid cable companies around here like Comcast/Charter
and TWC out of the mix since I have DirecTV.
Not sure you can really count CIC membership as being part of the "Big Ten".
I believe the reason Comcast and Time Warner have not added the BTN is less about money and more to do about competition. The BTN wants to be on the analog channel so users dont need a set top box to see. Most of the guys who have agreed have newer technology. The cable guys with the older networks do not have the bandwidth to compete with D* and E* in HD offerings. They want to get channels off of the analog space as they can broadcast more digital channels in the same space the analog channel is taking.
It has been stated that the BTN is asking 2/3 of what Comcast charges for it own sports channels (which are available in most places on analog). It is more convenient for them to blame the cost of BTN than for them to admit they dont have the capacity to add the BTN while they are busy building new systems to only send channels users are requesting vs sending all the channels down the line like they do now.
Just FYI, don't forget undergrad my alma mater: Tennessee. UT has a student population of 26,400 and 300,000 alumna (plus all the rednecks who are fans ). It actually used to be bit higher but they made a conscious decision about ten years ago to keep it around 25,000 +/-.
Ratings don't bear that out.
ESPN won the prime-time cable ratings the next-to-last week of September due in large part to the Georgia/Alabama game they televised on 9/22.
CBS should be happy with the SEC viewership. The game between LSU and Florida a few weeks ago won it's time slot with a 5.7 share according to Nielsen. And the KY/LSU game on 10/13 drew a 4.4 share the following week. ABC, by contrast, drew only a 3.5 share on 10/13 by showing games that featured USC and Penn State. (http://sportsmediawatch.blogspot.com/2007_10_15_archive.html)
Just for reference, the ALCS is averaging a 5.3 rating (pretty low considering that huge Boston market). Game 2 of the NLCS drew only a 2.2 rating.
Huh? Who cares? The Big 10 Network started first because they came up with the idea first and had the right people push the right buttons to get it rolling. Kudos to them, they got the ball rolling.
With that said, I am not sure why anyone would even try to argue about which conference has "more fans" or "more excitment" because to each his own.
You will find ACC, Pac-10, BigXII, Big10, and SEC fans swearing that their conference has the best fans, most support, etc...
As a homer SEC fan, I don't even think it is close that anyone touches the SEC fan base wise but you know what? I admit that I am bias and I could be wrong.
Funny then that the Big Ten's website says they left in '46. And that UofC plays Division III basketball (and probably football though I'm too lazy to look that up).
That's why I said it has nothing to do with sports. It has to do with the academic Big Ten which includes the biggest and best library network in the world.
I will repeat for the second time in this thread, the Big Ten didn't come up with anything original. BTN is a piggybacked idea from MTN, which not only got the ball rolling, but BTN execs have openly stated it's where they got their idea. It is also the reason I said I would wager that SECN would not be on D* first, because the same company that produces and owns MTN is SECN's biggest suitor--Comcast. I don't thing MTN is even available on a single non-Comcast provider at this point.
Jeez, give it up. That's not what you said, and even if it was it's wrong. The "Academic Big Ten" is a nickname for the Committee on Institutional Cooperation (and which BadgerDave pointed out previously). U. Chicago is part of that, yes, but it has nothing to do with the Big Ten sports conference and this thread is about sports conferences and their affiliated TV networks.
Weekly Saturday afternoon on CBS, ESPN and ESPN2 primetime games. Naaa, no ones watching. :sure:
keep enjoying those 11 am central kickoffs :lol: we'll gladly keep the primetime slots
The thread is about SECN, which if they follow in BTN's footsteps will be a channel that also promotes academic interests. They have tons of academic campus programming throughout the day.
I do believe University of Chicago is as much affiliated with the Big Ten as much as I believe Ntre Ame is affiliated with the Big East.
According to the Big Ten conference, "The University of Chicago was a co-founder of the conference and still maintains affiliation through the Committee on Institutional Cooperation."
I consider any member participating in one aspect of that conference to be a member. If you define it by all activities/sports, then the Big Ten has far less than ten members, because they don't participate equally outside of the revenue producing sports.
I think he was looking for a reaction, why oblige?
The Big Ten plays in 3 time slots almost every week, 12:00, 3:30, and 8:00.
Actually it's around 30,000 but 5,000 or so are trapped in UT Parking Lot Hell somewhere on or around campus. :lol:
GEEZE! I was kidding!:hurah: