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Self-Install/Coax questions

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by XRA, Jan 31, 2011.

  1. XRA

    XRA New Member

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    I am currently thinking about doing a self-install on a SWM-8/MRV. I've found all the equipment I need, the only thing I'm not sure about is how to actually cut and put fasteners on the ends of the cables. I have 4 lines from the dish to go into the SWM, but how do you go about cutting and putting on new fasteners?

    I have 1 HR23-700, 1 H24, and 1 H21 that I want to hook up and have MRV, I don't really need internet running, especially since all I have is 1.5 MB DSL. :D

    Thanks.

    Oops, sorry, found a couple of places I can get metered lengths with fasteners. :p
     
  2. doctor j

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  4. XRA

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    OK cool, thanks.
     
  5. carl6

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    Buy extra connectors and practice with a few. Be very careful that you do not have even a single (almost invisible) strand of shield wire shorting to the center conductor. Give the connector a decent tug after you put it on, it should stay on. Make sure the connectors you buy are correct for the coax you buy (for example, quad shield coax may require a different compression connector than regular shield).
     
  6. rayik

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    Also, if you buy the coax at home depot, be careful what you get. They have pre-packaged coax that is cheaper than the coax they cut for you. However the pre-packed coax is cooper coated center connector while the cut for you is solid copper. You need solid copper.
     
  7. mashandhogan

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    Why do you need Solid copper?? Part of my home system is copper-coated
     
  8. bobnielsen

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    With solid copper, there will be less DC resistance, with the result that there will be less voltage drop in the cable (affecting the multiswitch in the LNB assembly, which uses voltage levels to switch between satellites/polarizations). This is most important with long runs, and for non-SWM installations.
     
  9. ndole

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    Except for the coax between the power inserter and the LNB/SWiM Module. That does need to be solid copper to carry voltage to the SWiM switch.
     
  10. mashandhogan

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    Thank You......the run between the pi and lnb will be old PrimeStar line (in my new house)
     
  11. matt

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    Please provide the addresses of the Home Depots that sell solid copper RG6. I would love to be able get it locally, hopefully there is one here!
     
  12. BattleZone

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    You won't find SC cable at Home Depot, but, really, it isn't necessary unless you have a very long run. I understand DirecTV's position of "require it for every job so that those few that need it will have it", but in the real world, it's expensive overkill.

    Having said that, if I were pre-wiring a house, I would use SC quad shield, because once you put that cable in the wall, it's going to be there for a LONG time, and you never know what you'll want to do with it in the future.
     
  13. Jodean

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    theres no such thing as directv requiring solid copper rg6.

    All new construction homes have copper clad in them, unless someone specified solid copper to the electrician. I have not seen ANY electrician running solid copper line, even though it may only be about $30 more to do so per house......everyones a cheapskate nowadays.

    So basically, all directv systems are running on copper clad in new homes. I dont think anyone is going to wrap a new house with solid copper because directv said so, you would have to be a complete idiot to ruin a brand new house like that.

    But i guess i have seen these awesome installers here on this board already, so they will probrably chime in now.......im not new to this, just new to post on this site. So far there sure seems to be alot of these big headed guys on here, everything must be perfect and done how he thinks it should be and everything else is a crap install....ya well welcome to the real world......
     
  14. ndole

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    Where do you get your information?

    -Wrong
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    Something tells me you put in a lot of the latter :sure:
     
  15. matt

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    No wonder some people are scared of getting a crap install.
     
  16. RobertE

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    Perhaps you should re-read DirecTvs Residential Statement of Work dated 4/2010 and take a look at the approved materials list dated 5/2010.

    Any tech, whether he's with an HSP, sub or retailer should have and be familiar with those two documents. If not, they are doing a disservice to those customers who are unfortunate enough to encounter them.
     
  17. Jodean

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    So what are you suggesting here??

    Prove im wrong then!!?? I dare you to find a new house with solid copper rg6

    Been there done that! I have been a project manager of construction for the last 10 years, there are NO homes built with solid copper wire

    I never said i dont use solid copper, because i do, i use vextra cable which outperforms the perfect vision cable direct requires, i also do wild blue installs so the vextra is dual purpose to me.

    But, every new home ALL directv installers use the existing in wall copper clad cable.......end of story!!!
     
  18. matt

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    Yeah, and putting holes in brand new roofs in insane too! I mean it's brand new and

     
  19. joe diamond

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    RobertE,

    I found a link to the 2006 doc. Can't find the 2010 one...Got a link?

    I think you are right...every tech should see it. The HSPs seem to hide it and make up their own local job description.

    Joe
     
  20. The Merg

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    Not an installer, but I thought I read that the solid copper is to be used from the dish to inside the house to the SWM8/SWM splitter. Once inside the house, copper clad is fine at that point.

    Is that correct?

    - Merg
     

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