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Selling DirecTV DVR, include the access card?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Lynch, Sep 14, 2008.

  1. Lynch

    Lynch New Member

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    Hello,

    As a result of a move a few months ago, I disconnected my DirecTV and was left with a R15-500 DVR Receiver and a standard D11-500 receiver that have been sitting in my closet (I subscribed to cable at the new home). I plan on selling both on Ebay, but am wondering does it matter if I include the access card with both receivers when I sell them? I guess I'm under the impression that buyer would have to purchase 2 new cards when they call DTV to activate the devices? Just need some clarification..

    Thanks for any help!
     
  2. krock918316

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    You know that the receivers are leased, and have to be returned to DirecTV right?
     
  3. JLucPicard

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    I'm guessing that post #2 means nothing to you as you've probably had those long before DirecTV went to a leasing model.

    I would not sell them with the cards. At a minimum, I would not advertise that they come with the cards or DirecTV could have your listing cancelled. Technically, the cards are DirecTV's property. I'm not sure if they tend to want them back or not.

    Had your receivers been connected to a phone line? Asking from the standpoint of whether there may be unpaid PPV buys on them.

    Anyway, no, I would not sell the cards with the receivers.
     
  4. Lynch

    Lynch New Member

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    Correct, I bought the units outright when I signed up. Receivers were never connected via phone, if I wanted PPV I ordered online. Thanks for the info, no cards then!
     
  5. Grentz

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    Most of the time Directv will just require the buyer to purchase a new card anyways before activating it. So I would just leave them out.
     
  6. IndyMichael

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    How much are new access cards?
     
  7. spartanstew

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    $20
     
  8. IndyMichael

    IndyMichael Legend/Supporter DBSTalk Gold Club

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    I'm trying to see if it makes more sense for me go come back or my wife as a new customer. I assume if she opens the account, she'd need to get new cards for our D*Tivos, since they are in my name.
     
  9. spartanstew

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    Correct.

    I've heard of units being activated with old cards, but it's not common, nor is it the way it's supposed to happen
     
  10. carl6

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    As to the leased versus buy issue, most equipment acquired after March 1, 2006 is leased (regardless of where you "bought" it). When DirecTV first went to this model, it was often times not clear to the "purchaser" that they were paying an up-front lease fee, as opposed to actually buying the unit.

    If you acquired those two units prior to March 2006, they are almost certainly owned. If you acquired them after March 2006, they might be leased.

    How long has your account been closed? Typically you are sent recovery boxes for leased equipment when it is disconnected.

    Carl
     
  11. captain_video

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    Truth is, it makes absolutely no difference if you include the cards or not. Once upon a time it may have been an issue when some people were able to hack the cards and get free DirecTV. DirecTV closed the door on hackers several years ago and they have been hack-free ever since so the cards can no longer be used to circumvent paying for the service.

    Including the card may attract more buyers as there's a slim chance they may be able to use the old card if they are lucky enough to get a cooperative CSR that will switch it to their account. As long as your account is paid up then including the card may fetch you a better price. Once you've deactivated the receiver and card on your account it's no longer tied to you unless you want to reactivate it in a receiver on the same account at a later date.
     
  12. Bronco70

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    My question is, why bother? What is the market value for a R-15 or D-11?

    I had two old SAT-A1's sitting in a closet. And btw they cost $700 each back in 1995. The D* box for one of the kid's room died. Called in and the CSR could not understand why I did not want them to send out a new unit. Simple, 15 seconds to reactivate one of the ancient A-1's, it has RF remote capability (the IRD is one floor and 75' away). And the TV in the room is a 12 year old 27" CRT fed by RG-59 coax.

    Every now and again being a pack rat comes in handy. :)
     
  13. Mertzen

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    Are you sure, call D* to verify the status of your IRDs
     
  14. Spanky_Partain

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    I always destroy the card(s) that were in my unused receivers, even if they were going to the big sat in the sky...
     
  15. harsh

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    Presumably, the OP would have already been billed for non-return. You never really know with DIRECTV.
     
  16. rudeney

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    Do not include the access cards, especially if you try to sell them on eBay. In fact, you need to put in big, bold letters in the description that the access card is not included. Do not show the card in any photos.

    Even if you do this, you may still have a problem selling these receivers on eBay. According to D*, only authorized resellers may sell their branded equipment because it contains licensed software. Of course they have no legal leg to stand on. Imagine if Ford said you could not resell your Explorer because the engine control unit contains licensed software (which it does). The problem is, D* uses eBay’s VeRO program to cancel these auctions. If your auction does get cancelled, then forget it – your account will be flagged by D* and they will cancel any auction you every place that mentions anything about D* or even satellite equipment (even remotes!). There is no one at D* you can talk to about it and eBay will not deal with you on it, either. My advice is to sell it through other channels.
     
  17. Athlon646464

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    If I purchased his used D11, and then paid $20 for a card -

    1) Would it be activated?
    2) Would I then pay an additional monthly fee?
     
  18. harsh

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    No, you would have to activate it after you installed the new card
    Absolutely. Regardless of how you acquire a receiver, you pay a mirroring charge for every one but the first.
     
  19. curt8403

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    his used D11 might also be a leased rcvr, in which case you might be unable to activate it
     
  20. Athlon646464

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    Thanks for your replies! It seems, given your answers, to be little reason to buy one.......:eek2:
     

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