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Serena Williams disgrace

Discussion in 'Sports Programming and Events' started by Chandu, Sep 13, 2009.

  1. Chandu

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    Women's final went to Sunday night due to weather delays. It wouldn't have mattered who was in the final. Based on how TV rights were bid and shared between ESPN/Disney family and CBS, there was no way a Sunday night final would've been shown on CBS. Legal agreements in the contract stipulated that the match be shown on ESPN family channel then.

    Unless of course you're saying CBS would then step in (just based on Williams sister presence) and pay extra money to cover ESPN's contract fees; which I highly doubt. CBS already lost so much money due to rain downtime waste on Friday and Saturday. Their execs would be out of mind to shell out extra money at the last minute. Also the time for the match would be so difficult to advertise, given that the remaining time window was very narrow. It's plausible, but highly unlikely IMHO.
     
  2. Stewart Vernon

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    Don't get me wrong... I'm with all the people today on the sports shows who agree that Serena was way out of line. She deserved the fine (probably deserved more of a fine than she got) and probably has earned a suspension as well.

    I'm just not believing her "threat" should in any way be taken literally. When I hear the "but she threatened the life of the official" camp, I hope they are not being serious... because you just can't believe there was any serious threat there.

    So, in summation... Serena=out of line; deserving punishment... but she didn't suddenly become a criminal who actually seriously was about to kill someone.
     
  3. bigshew

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    Serena misheard the report of "threaten to kill". She admitted that in the press conferencee right after the match.
     
  4. dpeters11

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    A $10,000 fine means nothing, she earned $300,000 for getting as far as she did in the tournament and for her career is I believe ranked #1 in prize money, over $25 million. If anyone seriously thought she was threatening the officials life, she'd have gotten a much worse penalty.
     
  5. Fontano

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    Isn't that just the USOPEN fine?
    Not the fine from the governing body of tennis?
     
  6. Stewart Vernon

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    Yeah, fines in general when athletes "go after" officials tend to be on the low side. Again, it's not a federal case...

    ... BUT, you do have to take a stand, and make sure the officials don't feel like they have to 2nd guess just to avoid being yelled at.

    Officials should be scrutinized and graded to make sure they do their job their best... but the players also have to stay within their boundaries.
     
  7. Gloria_Chavez

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    She lost her cool. So what. Tennis, both via TV ratings and participation, has been on the upswing since 2000, coincident with the Williams Sisters. While not near the level it enjoyed in the 70s and early 80s, I bet that any smart agent could argue that Serena and Venus have meant hundreds of millions of dollars to US Tennis, via TV ad revenue and equipment sales. The only time I won't watch the Williams sisters is when they play each other. Can't believe that they don't hold something back when they face each other.
     
  8. Nick

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    Williams' "amended" press statement:
    http://www.serenawilliams.com/blog_message_detail.php?msg=125
     
  9. phrelin

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    Hmmm. Well, I had to see exactly what people in the know had to say. From the Chicago Tribune:
    Gee I had to recheck her Wikipedia page:
    I see some financial numbers on the page. Forbes has her annual earning at $17 million among the top 100 World's Most Powerful Celebrities.

    A tennis match is a hot and heavy encounter where we see benefits from weight training, etc. And in golf, some official isn't sitting there saying your ball isn't good because your foot was in the wrong place, meaning you just lost several million in potential endorsements. So it looks to me like the athlete/official relationship in this sport falls into the same category as pro basketball, football, and baseball more than pro golf.

    In other words, how frequently does just in-your-face yelling at a ref for a bad call deserve more than a 15 yard penalty in football? I guess in baseball it does get managers thrown out. But she didn't hit a fan like in basketball. Oh, I get it, she's different. So she's a disgrace.

    Or was it "a call rarely, if ever, seen at that stage of any match, let alone the semifinals of a Grand Slam tournament." And nobody raises an eyebrow why it would happen to Serena Williams.
     
  10. Stewart Vernon

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    Phrelin makes a good point... I think the punishment should fit the "crime"... but I'd also be in favor of a little more leeway.

    Sometimes in Tennis there are calls made by an official in no position to make the call. There have been technical improvements in recent years to help... and while I think Serena was on her way to losing anyway, being outplayed to that point, I'm not 100% sure she foot-faulted on that serve nor do I think it appropriate to lose a point on the argument with the official.

    I agree with the fine and other potential punishments to go with her outburst... but I hate to see games turned on penalties like that... and even though it looked like she was going to lose anyway, the definitive win was taken away from the winner in this scenario, so the winner (although she did go on to win the whole thing) is also punished by not being allowed to earn the win proper.
     
  11. Chandu

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    Some things never change! :rolleyes:

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    How this woman proven a disgrace in the past hadn't been banned from the sport already, I'll never know.
     
  12. Stewart Vernon

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    I don't see how this compares to the topic of this thread from 2 years ago.

    First... lots of players argue calls. This isn't even in the league with what she did a couple of years ago.

    Second... the fact that it has been 2 years kind of says that she hasn't been a repeat offender.
     
  13. iceturkee

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    she also didn't play tennis for a year because of 2 foot surgeries and blood clots in her lungs.
     
  14. djlong

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    Chandu: Go to an encyclopedia and look up Jimmy Connors and especially John MacEnroe. If they weren't banned....
     
  15. la24philly

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    Serena did nothing wrong, she shouted as she hit the ball back to her oppenent. it was a bit louder but, everytime someone serves or hits the ball back you can here some noise from a player as they hit the ball, sometimes just as loud.

    the only reason serena went off was because the umpire took her point away and gave it to the other person.

    To say serena will be ban, tennis would be doing themselves more harm then good, if they want ratings and more revenue.

    A majority of US audience would not be watching Tennis yesterday if serena wasn't involved. Especially with it being the NFL opening week and 9/11
     
  16. Nick

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    The...
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    Someone should tell Nadal to quick picking his ass during his matches. He would be a lot classier.
     
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    From the video I saw, it appears her yell came clearly after she hit the ball and not while hitting. Plus I do see a difference between a grunt and something verbal.
     
  19. Earl Bonovich

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    That is what I heard/saw as well...
    And that would be the issue with the topic... she yelled AFTER the hit already was complete, and the other player was about to strike.
     
  20. DJ Rob

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    I haven't heard/seen what she did/said, but for me as a non-tennis watcher, I'd check it out now :D
     

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