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should FCC regulate hd quality?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by ilfn143, Sep 5, 2007.

Should FCC regulates HD quality?

  1. YES

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  2. NO

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  3. Don't care

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  1. oenophile

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    I voted yes but with a big proviso: *I don't think they should mandate quality.*

    I do think they should mandate full disclosure of the quality of the signals being broadcast. In other words, there should be data readily available to all that shows bitrate, resolution, file size, etc. etc. etc. for every channel 24x7. Sunlight cures many ills and levels the playing field a bit. It is very hard to compare services and I think this would let people do so.

    (Frankly, I think the poll question isn't the right one--it should be about disclosure; I can't imagine many would be against that and it would solve the problem the OP is getting at.)
     
  2. DonCorleone

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    No, no, no, no, no.....no!!

    Keep government out of as much as you can. The fact that we have government (funded by MY tax dollars) looking into half the stuff they do is outrageous. This is NOT an important issue in comparison to the things we should be dealing with in this country.

    No, no, no, no.....
     
  3. JonW

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    I'm not sure, but the quality is not that great. I've seen better from 480P stretched by my TV.

    I agree this poll should be about disclosure and labeling, not about mandating - and that's how I replied to it. DirecTv really shouldn't be allowed to claim superior picture quality based on a poll that penalizes cable for still distributing some of their channels using analog, while ignoring the fact that DirecTv delivers an inferior HD product.

    There's a lot of terrible over compressed SD programming filling up cable and satellite channels. It would be a shame if HD was allowed to go the same way.
     
  4. ilfn143

    ilfn143 Mentor

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    yes there should be some standard for HD. If I buy a USB, FireWire, SATA I expect a certain performance out of it. It's hard for the market to short this one out because it's not like buying a car. You stop by Ford and test drove one, stop by GM and test drive another. There's no where that they have E* D* and Cable side-by-side on the same TV brand with the same station so that consumer can tell the different between quality. If you go to Best Buy all you see is a pre-recorded clip of Discovery HD Theater to make their TV looks good. All the consumers see is ads for D* "150 HD capacity", "More HD than anyone" from E*, and "Down to Earth technology" from cable.
     
  5. smiddy

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    I voted no too...HD quality would level the playing field too much and hinder competition. It is encumbant upon the consumer to get educated into what is available and to analyze which ones are the best value for their own pocket books. Education not simple leming hype will prevail in the end.

    I think there does have to be a certain amount of disclosure, perhaps this is what was meant by the poll?
     
  6. Ken_F

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    Requiring full disclosure is a good idea, but any attempt by the government to 'regulate' HD quality is a mistake.
     
  7. JonW

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    Well the OP in his initial post didn't say that DirecTv or HBO should be fined or jailed for providing an inferior product worse than DVD quality, he just said they shouldn't be allowed to call it HD.

    The "market" would correct the problem a lot faster if companies that actually served up HD were able to draw attention to that fact. "Only 30% of xxxx's programming is HD. Switch to yyy. 100% of our digital programming is offered in glorious HD"
     
  8. TogasPoon

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    Full disclosure is a good idea, requiring it is not. It may be important for you but it's something I'd rather not spend my money on.
     
  9. chopperjc

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    Keep the fcc involved in breast patrol. I certainly do not want them in anything important.
     
  10. Jeremy W

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  11. loudo

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    There should be a minimum standard (bitrate, screen size, not stretched) to be qualified as HD.
    Blurry SD stretched pictures, like TNT transmits, should not be classified as HD.
     
  12. Jeremy W

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    They're not...
     
  13. loudo

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    Agree, but it is being advertised and sold as HD on channel 75.
     
  14. Jeremy W

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    No it's not. TNT just puts the HD tag on all of the shows on TNT HD. It's inaccurate, but I wouldn't call it false advertising.
     
  15. pattcap

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    I voted yes on a reaction, but now that I think about it, the answer is NO
    If it becomes regulated, what ever the minimum is set to, no one will ever go above it.
    competition rules
     
  16. kevinwmsn

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    I don't want to govt to regulate this... In a few years something better will come along and we'll be stuck. The stations should get with carriers about how good their channels look.
     
  17. PoitNarf

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    They shouldn't even be involved in that. The FCC should regulate the radio frequencies and other technical aspects of devices, radiation emitted, etc. Any more than that is overstepping their bounds and illegal imo.
     
  18. Jeremy W

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    Unfortunately, it's not illegal. But it should be.
     
  19. jacksonm30354

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    I wish they would have regulated that all stations in a DMA broadcast from the same stick (antenna). That way you wouldn't have to keep re-aiming your home antenna when you change channels.

    They could put up translators/repeaters in outer areas where the signal is weak.
     
  20. oenophile

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    :soapbox: All the tax dollars you'll ever pay in your entire life will be spent in the next 2 hours (times >1,000) by many other things in the government (military, healthcare, roads, etc.)--even if you are Bill Gates (ok, so maybe not Bill Gates). If you could find a calculator with enough zeros, and you did the math, whatever "tax dollars" of yours spent in connection with any regulation of HD quality would be so insignificantly less than a penny you'd be hard pressed to make this exaggerated argument. You can't even really say: "not another penny of my tax dollars" as it wouldn't amount to a penny of your tax dollars. :rant:

    On the other hand, if you want to argue that this wouldn't be the right thing to do b/c it wouldn't help the consumer, that's a plausible argument. (One I'd agree with if we were talking about anything more than disclosure.)
     
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