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Should I get a Genie?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Connected Home' started by ScoHo, Aug 14, 2013.

  1. Beerstalker

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    If you currently have Whole Home DVR and DirecTV installed it for you then you most likely have SWM. If you are using whole home over an ethernet network that you hooked up then you might not have SWM, the next way to check is to see how many coax cables are hooked to the back of your HR20.
     
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    If you remove the coax and ethernet wiring from them before you call DirecTV and have them turned off then you should still be able to watch the recordings off them for a little while. How long can be kind of a crapshoot between power outages, firmware versions, etc. You will have to watch the recordings off them directly though, as whole home DVR won't work with them anymore.
     
  3. Lord Vader

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    I edited my post to add some important information.
     
  4. Lord Vader

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    That's not a problem.
     
  5. Beerstalker

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    That post was aimed toward ScoHo not you.

    For your issue, I think as long as you remove the coax and ethenet cables from the HR20 before you have DirecTV disconnect them you will be fine. DirecTV will not make you send them back since they are HR20s. However, if you do this while the technician is there they may have the technician take them with him to send them back, so I would either have them disconnected before or after the tech is there to install the genie. My recommendation is before. It is likely if you disconnect them before they will let you do a self install of the genie.
     
  6. Lord Vader

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    That sounds sensible. BTW, if I continue my unofficially supported Whole Home DVR service (meaning my ethernet, self-connected DVRs), does this make a difference with the Genie?
     
  7. Supramom2000

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    I don't think they will let you continue unsupported with a Genie. Are you paying the $3 Whole Home fee now? If so, it won't really matter as even if they supply you with the Cinema Connection Kit, you can unhook that and run the ethernet directly to your Genie (if it is near your router).
     
  8. Lord Vader

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    The Genie would not be near my router. However, it would be hard-wired to a device that is connected directly to my UVerse connection. (UVerse allows 2 direct connect ports. My second port is in my living room while my main one with the router is in the office/guest room.)
     
  9. Supramom2000

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    Are you doing a self install? If so, then set it up any way you choose! If not, after the tech leaves, undo and redo in your favorite setup.

    I undid my CCK after the installer left. Don't need it. But my setup is not unsupported.
     
  10. Lord Vader

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    It would be a self-install.

    BTW, if I do go this route, should I get an HR34 or an HR44? Is there really a significant difference between the two for my purposes?
     
  11. Supramom2000

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    I don't think you get to choose your Genie. But the HR44 is faster and smaller. Both are phenomenal for what they are designed for.
     
  12. Lord Vader

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    Well, I get to choose IF I buy one outright. ;)

    I can get a brand new HR34, unused, unactivated, etc., for a damn good price. The HR44 is $75 more; hence my asking if there really is a difference; i.e., is it really worth $75 more to get the 44 over the 34? What does the 44 have that the 34 not have?
     
  13. Supramom2000

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    Ah!! You are buying....

    HR44 is much smaller, the power supply is external instead of internal, and it is faster. I think it is noticeably faster - but that is all in the eye of the beholder.

    I also think (note the word think -not sure), that you can use the older remotes on the 34 in both IR and RF. The 44 can only use the old remotes in IR. It comes standard with the new peanut remote, which has its very own thread on drawbacks (for some people).

    The HR44 also has wireless capability for internet access and future wireless clients.

    Hope that helps!
     
  14. Lord Vader

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    OK, thanks. That helps, though I don't like that external power supply thing--that's just another physical thing clogging up my floor behind my much cluttered home theater setup. :p
     
  15. Lord Vader

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    Looks like I'll go with the 44. It's smaller anyway. Now if I can convince DirecTV to ship me a new AM21, I'll be all set. I do miss the internal OTA tuners on these newer receivers.
     
  16. ScoHo

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    I hooked up all of the networking stuff myself and called to activate whole home. The back of my HR20 has two coax going into it, each of which has those BBC converter things inline. I also see a big wideband 6x8 multiswitch where the dish feed comes into the house.
     
  17. Supramom2000

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    You can press the dash button on the remote and the screen will tell you whether or not you have a SWiM.

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    When should it be available? If I make the jump the the genie (and I'm assuming I'll need to go back under contract to do so unless I play full freight) I'd like to get this option my the upstair bedroom.
    they are being tested on a few markets right now. it could be a few months before they become available nationwide


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  19. Bill Broderick

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    However, I believe that the advantages of an external power supply greatly outweigh the "another physical thing" disadvantage.

    With an HR-34, if the power supply dies, you need to get a new Genie, which will cause you to lose any programming that is already recorded. With the HR-44, if the power supply dies, you will just get a new external power supply and won't lose any recordings.

    A power supply creates heat. Heat is the enemy of hard drives. Keeping the power supply out of the same box that houses the hard drive can reduce the likelihood of heat related hard drive failures.

    Because the HR-44 is internally cooler than the HR-34 (due to the external power supply), the internal fan almost never turns on (most people here have reported that the only time that the fan ever turns on is during a reboot where testing the fan is part of the power up process). Therefore the HR044 is quieter than the HR-34.
     
  20. Lord Vader

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    Oh, I know; I agree with your comments and actually like the idea of an external power supply. I guess I'll just have to keep all my adapters straight, because God knows there are a lot of them back there.
     

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