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Should the DirecTv 3D Update include the Checkerboard Format?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by geaux tigers, May 8, 2010.

Should the DirecTv 3D update include the Checkerboard Format?

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  1. May 9, 2010 #41 of 117
    Jeremy W

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    I explained myself once, you ignored it. I'm not going to waste more time repeating what I've already posted just to satisfy you.
     
  2. May 10, 2010 #42 of 117
    geaux tigers

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    If the current DirecTv receivers can not output the 3D Checkerboard format then it would be nice if DirecTv and the other television content providers would put pressure on the CEM to come up with a solution for 3D ready DLP HDTVs. 4 million HDTV owners is a large number to ignore. The larger the base of 3D HDTVs then the the larger the subscriber base for 3D content. I am assuming that those involved with 3D want it to be successful and make a profit.
     
  3. May 10, 2010 #43 of 117
    veryoldschool

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    I understand your position, having one of these and wanting it to work.
    "3D ready" sounds like it isn't exactly/truly ready, since the final format is still up for debate [or has been decided and this format goes the way of the HDDVD/BetaMax].
    As one that bought a 1080p TV only to find out later [since Sony NEVER listed which 1080p it did] it doesn't work for 1080p24, I too felt screwed and Sony didn't give a **** about their customers who brought these TVs.
    "Early adopters" always run these risks.
     
  4. May 10, 2010 #44 of 117
    taz291819

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    As I mentioned over on AVSForum, hopefully Directv will get Cyberlink to add checkerboard output to Directv2PC, since they've already accomplished it with PowerDVD 10.

    This would be a lot easier to do than try to add it to the STBs, if it's even possible.
     
  5. May 10, 2010 #45 of 117
    geaux tigers

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    Samsung use to make HD DirecTv receivers back in the day because I owned one. DirecTv should tell Samung to do the right thing and make a 3D Checkerboard Converter if they ever want to see any repeat business. Mitsubishi made an HD DirecTv receiver as well because that was my first HD DirecTv receiver. However, Mitsubishi is making a converter for its customers but decided to not allow Samsung DLP owners to benefit from it. Maybe, DirecTv could tell Mitsubishi to not be so anal and to allow the Samsung owners a seat at the table. Hey, its a crazy world and anything is possible.
     
  6. May 11, 2010 #46 of 117
    Jeremy W

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    They still make DirecTV receivers. They just don't put their name on them anymore.
     
  7. May 11, 2010 #47 of 117
    jefbal99

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    Voted No, DirecTV can choose to support whatever format that they want to. They need to do whatever is best for their company and system. The price of being an early adopter is stuff doesn't always end up supported. Look at the very early HDTVs that only had component hook ups, they will soon be the way of the DoDo...
     
  8. May 11, 2010 #48 of 117
    taz291819

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    Yeah, but those HDTVs have been in service for 12 years.
     
  9. May 11, 2010 #49 of 117
    Doug Brott

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    Hey, I get it, but it's the risk of early technology .. Quite frankly, this is likely a Mitsubishi problem more so than a DIRECTV problem.
     
  10. May 11, 2010 #50 of 117
    jefbal99

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    Ding, Ding, Ding, we have a winner!!!
     
  11. May 12, 2010 #51 of 117
    georule

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    If the hardware isn't compatible, then oh well. 3DC-1000 here I come.
     
  12. May 12, 2010 #52 of 117
    Athlon646464

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    I have a Mitsubishi DLP (60737), and I will need the adapter. I will get it when there is content I'm interested in.

    I can understand why Mitsubishi will not support the Samsung DLP's. You would think Samsung would support their customers, especially after calling their sets 3D ready.
     
  13. May 12, 2010 #53 of 117
    Jeremy W

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    The only way I could understand it would be if they were selling the converters at a loss. I highly doubt that they're doing that, so it doesn't make sense to me. They don't have to provide support for Samsung TVs, just don't explicitly lock them out.
     
  14. May 12, 2010 #54 of 117
    houskamp

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    ahh, the joys of buying brand new tech. it's usualy outdated in a few months..
     
  15. May 12, 2010 #55 of 117
    Athlon646464

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    My thinking is that they are not going to help sell Samsung TV's by making something available to convert one format to another. That's what I meant.

    I'm not saying it's a good or bad thing, but I understand their business decision. If they sell more TV's as a result, then that is how they win. I don't think they are going to make a bundle on the adapter.

    They can point to Sumsung for not supporting their customers as well (even if it is just implied.)
     
  16. May 12, 2010 #56 of 117
    Athlon646464

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    Me thinks HDMI 1.4a will likely fix that for 3D.
     
  17. May 12, 2010 #57 of 117
    taz291819

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    It wouldn't help Samsung sell TV's what-so-ever, since Samsung doesn't sell DLPs anymore.

    What it will do is get people pissed off Samsung, and in turn, they won't purchase from Samsung in the future. Now, this doesn't automatically mean said people will buy Mits, but hey, one less competitor.
     
  18. May 12, 2010 #58 of 117
    Athlon646464

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    OK - did not know that. Thanks.
    But - perhaps allowing Samsung to let their customers flap in the breeze is why they would decide to do that, at least for now.
     
  19. May 12, 2010 #59 of 117
    Beerstalker

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    HDMI 1.4a will do nothing for DirecTVs 3D service as our receivers don't have it. They will be using the side by side method with 960x1080 going to each eye so it doesn't require the extra bandwidth that the more advanced 1920x1080 3D requires (which is what HDMI 1.4a is about).

    I personally think/hope that the current generation of 3D tech will be short lived. I just don't find shutter glasses and their respective high costs will be able to last. $150 glasses being lost or broken is just too high of an expense. As soon as they can figure out how to get polarized 3D to work in the home I think everyone will start to switch to that technology. The TVs will be more expensive, but glasses costing $5 or less will more than make up for it in the long run.
     
  20. May 12, 2010 #60 of 117
    GregLee

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    That's not quite right. The side-by-side format is included in HDMI 1.4a, and (after an update) our receivers will have it. The 1.4a revision to 1.4 specifically provides for the side-by-side format.
     

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