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Should the Federal Gov't. regulate DirecTV receivers and other STBs?

Discussion in 'Legislative and Regulatory Issues' started by Lord Vader, Sep 15, 2011.

  1. Lord Vader

    Lord Vader Supreme Member

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    Why doesn't it surprise me that this pending battle began in California, perhaps the king of the nanny states?

    From the Morning Bridge today:

    Whether DirecTV receivers consume "astronomical amounts of energy" or not, isn't that the end user's problem? If I want to leave my lights on all night, should the government step in to tell me I'm wasting energy, only to be followed by regulating my light usage (probably by mandating light switches that don't operate after midnight or something)?

    Seriously, this nanny state "we know better than you" or "it's for your own good" mentality is beyond ridiculous. The more these regulations are implemented, the fewer freedoms we possess.

    Make more energy efficient DVRs? Sure, why not? But let competition and the market do it. Let company ABC make set top boxes (STBs) that they claim are more efficient and consumers may flock to that manufacturer on their own. Don't have the frickin' government dictate everything.
     
  2. SayWhat?

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    Fine, but sometimes they need a swift kick in the cahones to get motivated, hence regulation. They've had a decade to do it themselves and have done nothing.
     
  3. Lord Vader

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    Give me a break! This is over regulation at its finest, yet another shining example of the federal government sticking its nose farther into the lives of the American people.
     
  4. DogLover

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    Have they done nothing? Recent DIRECTV DVR's have been EnergyStar certified, while older ones were not. Seems like they don't need the "kick" to do something on their own.

    And, there are arguably much bigger energy wasters in the home.
     
  5. webby_s

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    Get the government out of my house, let alone out of my DVR's.

    That's all I have to say on the matter.
     
  6. autumnghost

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    Let's look at the real picture here. Local feds have long ago taken
    control of the cable tv market. They use the infrared remote sensors on electronic devices to surveillance you. I know, as I've been a victim of it. You may not believe it, but I know firsthand. With so many people shifting to satellite, they're losing control. Satellite receivers do not allow the local feds to tap into and view people. The direct-to-home nature of reception prevents this. The feds want to manufacture the boxes themselves so they can modify them to get back all the spying techniques they've lost since so many people are getting dishes. That is the real reason, hidden behind the guise of energy efficiency.
     
  7. P Smith

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    I'd like the initiative and I will support my senator to push it.

    I know guts of the DVR from beginning and see how they involved with very lazy approaches in design and SW development.
    Just two tech tidbits: it was spin-down of HDD in the DVR and it was time when DVR wasn't require to reboot each night.
     
  8. ub1934

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    Looks like your a real Scott Walker buddy . :rolleyes:
     
  9. Tom Robertson

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    DIRECTV has been fairly aggressive on their energy savings. If I recall correctly, the previous listing of set top boxes by EnergyStar had quite a number of DIRECTV boxes, all the then shipping new receivers.

    They just came out with a new list and the D12, H25, and HR24 are all on the list with the more stringent requirements; again all the currently shipping and being manufactured models (I believe.)

    Cheers,
    Tom
     
  10. sigma1914

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  11. Stuart Sweet

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    I'd say energy star certification is probably all the government should expect at this point. I do think DIRECTV is moving toward more energy-efficient models because the consumer demands it. As for this legislation, I'd say Senator Feinstein is introducing it at a time when it has little chance of passing. This is a tried-and-true strategy for getting your name in the papers.
     
  12. SayWhat?

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    Isn't this the same state that regulates big screen TVs and essentially every other consumer product to the point that special "California" versions (ie. lawn mowers, weedeaters, etc.) have to be produced?
     
  13. Stuart Sweet

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    That's a bit of an oversimplification but yes.
     
  14. P Smith

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    So what ? At least it's best state in US by many means. :p
     
  15. Tom Robertson

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    After pondering this a bit, several things come to mind:

    Stuart was right--this was mostly a grandstand play. (She didn't just write it to the industry--she copied the press...) :)

    This was most likely an empty threat. If she had left out the threat altogether, I wouldn't have any problem with her writing a letter asking them to do something.

    I like the EnergyStar concept and I hope it is relatively well done.

    Beyond that, the government has no right to really poke its nose into this. We gots more important things to worry about.

    And we don't need extra costs by both the government creating these laws and electronics companies fighting their creation.

    Cheers,
    Tom
     
  16. Gloria_Chavez

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    Lord Vaders asks, "Should the Federal Gov't. regulate DirecTV receivers and other STBs?"

    I reply, No, and neither should it regulate the energy market.

    This means that we should eliminate the gas tax, and no state or municipality should have the ability to slap an excise tax on gasoline.

    And I say all this as a Dem who believes that Senators like Feinstein are hurting the Party's ability to draw new voters.
     
  17. SayWhat?

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    Like the volume of TV commercials?

    Or the type of light bulbs available?
     
  18. Lord Vader

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    I'm a teacher, and I'm a big fan of Scott Walker. The actions of him and his party in Wisconsin DID save the state a ton of money, so much so that many districts now have the money to hire more teachers, and this is not because many in the state are retiring, either.

    As far as P Smith supporting this, I assume he'd also support the government putting timers on his lights to control when he can turn them on/off; or supporting the government putting ignition locks on his car to control when he can drive to cut down on pollution; etc.

    Where does it end? Give the government an inch now, they'll take a mile later.
     
  19. Lord Vader

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    Because she has nothing better to worry about, right? No other important items for Congress to tackle now, I guess. :rolleyes:

    Which is why it's so screwed up, especially economically.

    Hardly. Mine isn't, either, but California is a mess, especially financially. It tries hard to be the biggest financial deadbeat in the country, but that honor officially belongs to the one in which I live. :nono2:
     
  20. Stuart Sweet

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    I know that Tom and I have participated in bringing this thread to where it is, so I'd like to ask quietly, let's steer this back to the subject of regulation on STBs and not to politics in general.

    Thanks.
     

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