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Should there be a "fat tax"?

Discussion in 'The OT' started by Chris Blount, May 18, 2012.

Should there be a "fat tax"?

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  2. No

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  3. Not Sure

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  1. Jun 2, 2012 #121 of 203
    Laxguy

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    They will!

    Reminds me of "facts" that went around in childhood: That a bottle of coke poured into the gas tank would destroy an engine. Maybe only gum up the carb, but has anyone else heard that? Anyone know the truth?
     
  2. Jun 2, 2012 #122 of 203
    Laxguy

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    Please state what I misrepresented, not by telling me to go back and read your posts, nor making snide remarks about my vision.

    And, If I did misquote or misrepresent, I do apologize; I try to avoid unfairness of any kind.
     
  3. Jun 2, 2012 #123 of 203
    BubblePuppy

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    Posted else where:
     
  4. Jun 2, 2012 #124 of 203
    spartanstew

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    Very true Puppy. People only care about what directly affects them.

    Kinda reminds me of this quote from Andy Rooney:

    "If I were black, I would be a militant, angry black man, railing against the injustices that have been done me. Being white, I think blacks should forget it and go to work."
     
  5. Jun 2, 2012 #125 of 203
    Davenlr

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    I doubt it would ever make it through the fuel filter to get to the engine. Just a little water in the gas tank will screw it up. Although I have heard of people putting straight sugar in gas tanks to fry an engine.
     
  6. Jun 2, 2012 #126 of 203
    Lord Vader

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    I already did.

    Apology accepted.
     
  7. Jun 3, 2012 #127 of 203
    Stewart Vernon

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    You mean as opposed to an organization that wants to sell you to pay for a personal trainer? Come on, everyone is selling something. If you're going to discount the word of someone because they are profiting on their word, then you can't count the results of AND study conducted by a professional.

    Meanwhile... your link still doesn't say anything about the body converting sugar into fat, because you won't find that in any credible scientific document. It simply doesn't happen.

    You're seeing what you want to see if you read the link you just provided and think it says that your body is converting sugar into fat.

    Actually... all you "caught" me in was an editing error. I had meant to say "Your body does not convert sugar into fat" but the sentence got away from me and I obviously didn't edit the initial "your body doesn't store sugar" part out. I got caught up in the explanation and forgot to edit the details.

    I won't go fix it now, because I'll stand by my posts even when I misspoke... but I know the body does store some sugar, it has to, or it wouldn't be able to run some things or digest some other things if it didn't have some sugar in reserve for energy.

    As for the last word... I don't need to have it, but I did want to thank you (sincerely) for catching my error, because I did not mean to say what I said in the part you quoted. That was most definitely an error and incorrect statement as it was posted, and didn't agree with other posts I made later.
     
  8. Jun 3, 2012 #128 of 203
    Herdfan

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    The big issue I have with this is there are so many bigger issues that need to be fixed. I read an article the other day about how NY state is losing high-income residents daily, and I would bet NYC has a fair number of them, because taxes are too high. Maybe the government should worry about how to combat this problem instead of who drinks what.
     
  9. Jun 3, 2012 #129 of 203
    TBoneit

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    And when restricting size doesn't work for all the Non Sugary beverage drinking overweight people what next.

    Will they then start restricting how much one person can buy in a restaurant?
    Will you have to take the whole family with you to get enough take out food?
    Will you end up having to provide Food ID cards at the Supermarket?

    Poor people are carrying more weight than the well off. Hey, Maybe we can ban being poor. :D

    A little extreme For now but in the future, They'll force you to be slim for your own good. You may be miserable but you will be slim and taxed if you don't do your 1 mile run every day.
     
  10. Jun 3, 2012 #130 of 203
    Laxguy

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    I don't buy that the proposed NYC restriction on the initial sale of a huge sized sugary drink leads to "1984" or anything like a Nazi state.
     
  11. Jun 3, 2012 #131 of 203
    Lord Vader

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    Of course it does. It's just another example of the government reaching into an area of our lives into which they have NO right to reach. They're limiting our freedoms and instituting more control over us. Sadly, you are among the camp that doesn't want many freedoms and rights but instead wants the government telling us how to eat and how much to eat.

    Scary.
     
  12. Jun 3, 2012 #132 of 203
    Laxguy

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    What's scary is your extremism and insulting ways. Do not presume to know my heart or mind.

    Do you disagree that obesity is a major problem confronting our nation?
     
  13. Jun 3, 2012 #133 of 203
    Lord Vader

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    Sorry, but you're the extremist here. Anyone who advocates and accepts a reduction in our rights and freedoms is an extremist, someone against whom the Founding Fathers fought.

    There are a lot of major problems facing our country, but the government is not the entity to tackle every one of them. The People must be responsible to handle many of the problems they face.
     
  14. Jun 3, 2012 #134 of 203
    Laxguy

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    Your characterizations are extreme and insulting.

    Plus you completely dodged a simple and direct question. Unless you can argue fairly, and address issues, I am done.
     
  15. Jun 3, 2012 #135 of 203
    Lord Vader

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    No, I answered your question, though not in the manner in which you preferred. Obesity is not a problem that the government must "solve" by restricting our freedoms. You support that; I get it. It's not insulting for me to simply point that out.

    Many others support fewer rights & freedoms, so it's not like you're the only one.
     
  16. Jun 3, 2012 #136 of 203
    Laxguy

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    Thanks for agreeing that obesity is a national problem.
     
  17. Jun 3, 2012 #137 of 203
    Stewart Vernon

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    But you do buy that sugary drinks lead to obesity?

    Think about what you just did there.

    On the one hand "government banning of one thing that might be good for you doesn't automatically lead to government control of everything" but on the other hand "sugary drinks lead to being fat so nobody should be able to have large cups even if they aren't fat."

    You simultaneously staked a position on both sides!

    You can't argue that sodas need to be banned because it will be "good for everyone" and address a "national problem" and then argue that you don't believe that it is too much control.

    You weren't asking me... but I'll answer.

    I do in fact disagree.

    Yes, there are obese people... and yes they are under health risks... but it is not a "national problem" in the same sense as a poor economy or an energy crisis or a war or other things that affect everyone in a big way.

    Ignorance and stupidity are far worse national problems, if you ask me, but I've seen no attempt to ban stupidity... and arguably IF you could ban stupidity it would solve a LOT of other problems, wouldn't it?

    So, devil's advocate... let's say it is a national problem then... now what? Government gets to decide how much and when you should eat, drink, sleep, exercise, breathe?

    Maybe the government thinks you spend too much time on the internet talking about DBS and you should be out walking instead.
     
  18. Jun 4, 2012 #138 of 203
    Lord Vader

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    The sale of sugared, carbonated soft drinks has decreased 24% since 1998. The American people get it already. This ban is not only stupid, nonsensical, and anti-freedom, it is also totally unnecessary.
     
  19. Jun 4, 2012 #139 of 203
    Shades228

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    I voted yes but mainly for a different reason.

    I hate food chains and this would make it less appealing to go to one.
     
  20. Jun 4, 2012 #140 of 203
    Laxguy

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    Wow, this has gotten political and heated on the part of some, so I am saying bye-bye.

    I will certainly admit that the gummint- or anyone- might properly tell me I should spend more time walking and less on DBSTalk!

    Have a nice day!
     

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