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SHVIA Mccain Bill PASSED!!!

Discussion in 'Legislative and Regulatory Issues' started by Mr. Shvia, Nov 21, 2004.

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  1. Nov 21, 2004 #1 of 123
    Mr. Shvia

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    SHVIA Mccain Bill PASSED!!!

    It looks to me that about six hours ago the version of the Satellite Bill that
    includes Digital White Areas and also allows for people to receive both their
    local stations and distants at the same time has passed!!!

    Echostar has also posted a statement on their website commending John Mccain.

    http://www.corporate-ir.net/ireye/ir_site.zhtml?ticker=dish&script=410&layout=-6&item_id=646314
     
  2. Nov 21, 2004 #2 of 123
    Bobby94928

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    The President has line item veto power...... Hmmmmmmm... Let's see how this goes.
     
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    Geronimo

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    I believe that line item veto power was decalred unconstitutional back in 1997.
     
  4. Nov 21, 2004 #4 of 123
    SAEMike

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    It was. The case was Clinton v. The City of New York. The line item veto power which became effective on January 1st 1997, and was declared unconsitutional by the Court in July of 1998 only applied to funding and taxing bills, not to legislation such as this.
     
  5. Nov 21, 2004 #5 of 123
    Geronimo

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    Thanks Mike I thought it struck it down altogether.
     
  6. Nov 22, 2004 #6 of 123
    James Long

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    One would have to give the president a REASON to line item veto something. And one would have to have access to the president's staff to suggest it.

    Hmmm... How many times has the line item veto been used?

    JL
     
  7. Nov 22, 2004 #7 of 123
    RaceTrack

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    Did Significantly Viewed pass or not?
     
  8. Nov 22, 2004 #8 of 123
    James Long

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    Passed.

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  9. Nov 22, 2004 #9 of 123
    SAEMike

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    Sorry Chief, it was struck down all together, what I was explaining is that BEFORE it was struck down it only applied to funding and tax measures, not things such as this :)

    Sorry I wasn't clear.
     
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    Geronimo

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    Cool.
     
  11. Nov 22, 2004 #11 of 123
    Bobby94928

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    Mike,

    Thanks for the clarification. Now, then Prez wants the budget, so he's gonna sign it. :yesman:
     
  12. Nov 22, 2004 #12 of 123
    Richard King

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    Fabulous news. This along with digital white areas should be GREAT for satellite and a real blow to broadcast and the NAB. I look forward to eventually getting Orlando locals added to my West Palm Beach locals here midway between the two.

    I wonder how they will define "significantly viewed". Anyone know?
     
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    BobMurdoch

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    Probably the same rules that apply to cable. Here in SE Monmouth Cty., NJ both NY and Philly stations are carried by cable, while satellite forces us into the NY local. My wife will be happy to see Eagles games.

    Hopefully they will let us get all of the broadcast networks in HD like we can get with CBS HD now....
     
  14. Nov 22, 2004 #14 of 123
    BobMurdoch

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    Boo. The NAB has three years to stall this thing. It may be 2007 before we can get them........
     
  15. Nov 22, 2004 #15 of 123
    "mover"

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    So what happens to people who already receive distant nets and thier LiL's do they stay or do they go now. Do I have to make a choice between my LiL or the distants. And if I must choose can I keep both NY & LA?
     
  16. Nov 22, 2004 #16 of 123
    bobmcl

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    Our local Cable Company Time Warner carries one local Milwaukee station in our area. Will I be able to get Milwaukee from Directv?

    Directv customer since Oct 96
     
  17. Nov 22, 2004 #17 of 123
    wcswett

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    I'm about 20 pages into reading this 100 page bill and I've just noted some things that are new, important and I don't think was in force before. First, the local stations have 30 days to deny a waiver or it is assumed that the waiver is APPROVED. I don't think they had to reply before and the waiver was assumed DISAPPROVED. Second, the satellite companies must periodically submit reports on all locals subscribers, with addresses, to the local stations. Presumably this is so local stations can challenge subscriptions. The rest of the first 20 pages concerns changes to put satellite at parity with cable.

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  18. Nov 22, 2004 #18 of 123
    wcswett

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    Following on to my previous post, the next 10 pages all concern royalty fees and royalty arbitration. The 15 pages after that deal with low power and superstations and lays out a number of definitions, such as what is a "superstation" and a "low power station". The distances of 35 miles normally and 20 miles if in one of the top 50 urban areas of the country are laid out with respect to the local market of a low power station. The 10 pages after that charge the Register of Copyrights to determine, by Dec. 31, 2005, to what extent current law harms or mitigates harm to copyright holders of broadcast programming. There is more on royalties, and special clauses concerning Alaska. Man it's getting boring at this point!

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  19. Nov 22, 2004 #19 of 123
    Mr. Shvia

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    Where can we find a copy of this bill? I have been looking like mad on
    Senate.gov. All I know is that it was grouped with some kind of spending bill.
     
  20. Nov 22, 2004 #20 of 123
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    Can anybody further expand on the provisions of the '3 year' period alluded to in the E* release and some of the posts above?

    It would seem a pretty simple procedure to determine if a particular local is being provided LIL and has no digital (or HD) signal. It would also seem that the sat providers would jump pretty quickly on getting time zone appropriate HD feeds from an HD enabled local that would like the additional viewers (=ad revenues).

    John
     
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