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Signal Loss due to snow ?

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by Mike109, Feb 27, 2013.

  1. Mike109

    Mike109 Legend

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    I'm in the Chicagoland area and use the EA. We've had snow most of the day on Tues but none in the evening.

    I get the local HD channels but not the higher ones such as FX or History.

    When I tuned in History HD there was message saying I was being changed to the SD channel & this did come in OK.

    Even if the storm has moved eastward & blocks the signal, or blocks the uplink, why would local HD channels or History SD make it through?

    Is this more likely an issue of signal transmission to or from the satellites?
    Or would it be a problem with snow buildup on my dish or ice on an LNB?

    If it's my Dish I have no idea how to clean it off. It's on the roof near the edge but it is 2 stories straight up.
     
  2. sregener

    sregener Godfather

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    Snow on your dish and/or LNB will block the signal. If it only partially blocks the signal, you'll get some channels but not others based on which satellite is blocked, or even which frequencies. Wet snow is worse than dry snow, not only because it has more water content, but also because it's stickier.

    I use a roof rake to knock snow off mine, but if you don't have something like that, it's going to take a tall ladder. Or wait for Mr. Sun...
     
  3. Mike109

    Mike109 Legend

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    I do have a roof rake & an 8 ft ladder. I know from previously using the roof rake that it gets a bit unwieldy when you increase its length.

    I did think about it though, but just using the handle to carefully knock off some snow. With my luck I'd probably knock an LNB out of alignment.

    I'm just preparing myself for what needs to be done later.
     
  4. BubblePuppy

    BubblePuppy Good night dear Smoke... love you & "got your butt

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    Last Thursday and Friday we got over 8 inches of snow without any signal loss. Yesterday we got 4-5 inches of very wet snow which caused total signal loss. I went out with a hand pump garden sprayer filled with very hot water, and after about 5 minutes of spraying the dish I had it cleared and signal restored.
     
  5. Mike109

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    I just took a look at my Dish. The LNBs look OK. But I cannot see if there is any clear ice on them because they are 20 ft up on the roof. The dish itself has a small amount of snow on the lower 2 inches or so. Buy it could have a coating of ice also.

    This is the first time in 2.5 years I've had this problem. Makes me wish I had a 20 ft extension ladder.
     
  6. LtMunst

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    Back when I had the two dish 500 (61.5, 110/119) setup, I never lost signal due to snow..even in some pretty big storms. Ever since I've been switched to the single dish Eastern Arc setup...I lose signal for a couple of hours anytime it snows.

    I like the idea of the garden sprayer...I'll have to try that.
     
  7. Skeeterman

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    In my area of the mid-west we have had three snow storms in three weeks. I've lost Dish signal a total of four days due to these storms. Never had that happen in 14 years as a Dish subscriber.....other than a few heavy downpours of rain that may last hour or so.

    I've decided to remedy that by buying a dish heater. Here's one I've ordered and should get it next week. I'm sure spring weather will come quick when I install it. But, there's next year.

    http://www.satpro.tv/slimlinehotshotdishheater.aspx
     
  8. boba

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    Even cold water will melt snow and ice as long as it is liquid it is above freezing. A garden hose with nozzle will work it will just take nore water than if you have a hot water source.
     
  9. sregener

    sregener Godfather

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    Even hot water will freeze on your dish if it's -20. You warm-climate people make me sick. :nono2:
     
  10. boba

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    Sorry but I have 30 years in New England and it might surprise you we get snow and ice in Texas.
     
  11. MysteryMan

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    With all the snow and freezing rain we've had this winter I'm happy to say I have yet to experience snow fade this year.
     
  12. 2Newfs

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    I always heard that a super soaker water gun with windshield washer fluid would work for getting snow off of distant dishes. I've never tried this since my wife won't let me buy a super soaker. She has some strange idea I might use it on her as well as the dish. :)
     
  13. sregener

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    There's cold, and then there's real cold. And until you're trying to get ice off your dish at -20, don't tell me about how bad it is down in Texas. My guess is you haven't had a single day with the temperature low enough to freeze windshield wiper fluid on contact with your windshield.
     
  14. Mike109

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    I would need a SuperSoaker that could shoot 20 ft straight up. I know my garden hose with spray attachment connected to my outside faucet could probably go 20', but I don't know about doing it straight up. Besides I'd hate to be below the water when it comes down.

    It might take a powerful homemade super soaker to do the job.

    I also thought about making a 15 or 20 ft PVC extension & attaching it to the garden hose, like a long wand. That would get the spray nozzle right up by the dish. Now the water would have to squirt only a few feet. If the temperature was still above 32 degrees or so, I could just connect a short hose to the nearby outside faucet.
     
  15. rcadss

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    Here in Utah, I always put a trash bag over the whole dish. Make sure it is tight over it. I have notice no signal loss all winter.
     

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