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Signal OK for HD self-install activation?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by gtheel, Dec 8, 2008.

  1. Dec 8, 2008 #1 of 16
    gtheel

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    To make a long story short, I'm trying to self-install a Slimline-3 because the HSP has several times refused to do an install after claiming line-of-sight issues. The dish is up and appears to be peaked pretty well, according to the signal strength meter on a borrowed HD receiver.

    I am returning to D* and currently have no commitment, so before activating my service and locking in the 2-year commitment with a retail-purchased HD receiver, I wanted to get some feedback about how my signal strength looks and whether there's anything I'm overlooking.

    I'm in the Atlanta area, so my HD locals come from D11 (per the latest LIL work here - great stuff!) and don't believe I need anything other than 101, D10 and D11. Here are my signal strengths:

    101
    Code:
    1-8:	98	100	95	94	96	100	96	100
    9-16:	96	100	96	83	97	100	94	100
    17-24:	93	97	93	88	94	100	92	100
    25-32:	88	100	87	94	94	100	91	100
    
    103b (from a H21, so it's D10)
    Code:
    1-8:	94	94	94	94	92	93	92	94
    9-16:	92	94	89	94	93	94	n/a	n/a
    17-24:	n/a	n/a	n/a	n/a	n/a	n/a	n/a	n/a
    25-32:	n/a	n/a	n/a	n/a	n/a	n/a	n/a	n/a
    
    99a (from a H21, so it's D11)
    Code:
    1-8:	95	94	94	95	94	93	94	95
    9-16:	94	93	94	94	94	94	n/a	n/a
    17-24:	n/a	n/a	n/a	n/a	n/a	n/a	n/a	n/a
    25-32:	n/a	n/a	n/a	n/a	n/a	n/a	n/a	n/a
    
    Is there anything there that should make me wary about going forward with the 2-year lock in? Although we're approaching winter, the trees in the general line-of-sight still have most of their leaves, so I don't anticipate any seasonal problems.

    Thanks for everyone's help. I couldn't have gotten this far without this great forum!
     
  2. Dec 8, 2008 #2 of 16
    Matman

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    Looks like you should be in good shape! Only "gotcha" I potentially see for you is if next spring the tree you speak of really grows in full, but since you say they still have most of their leaves and no issues, you are probably fine. Great signal strengths, good install!
     
  3. Dec 8, 2008 #3 of 16
    seltech

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    indeed, GJ :)
     
  4. Dec 8, 2008 #4 of 16
    smiddy

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    Those look great to me man! Light it up!
     
  5. Dec 9, 2008 #5 of 16
    gtheel

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    Thanks, all.

    Quick follow up: According to the latest LIL transponder map, my HD locals should come from 103(a) on transponders 16 and 20. When I view the signal strength screen for 103(a) on the H21, all transponders show up as n/a.

    Is this something I should be worried about, or should I be OK because I have strong signals on the 103(b) CONUS transponders? Obviously, I can see D10 but I don't know whether there could be a difference between the CONUS beams and the spot beams from the same sat.
     
  6. Dec 9, 2008 #6 of 16
    carl6

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    If you are receiving all of the channels you are supposed to be getting, then you don't need to worry about it.
     
  7. Dec 9, 2008 #7 of 16
    gtheel

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    I'm actually trying to decide whether my signal strengths after a self-install are good enough to reactivate my D* service and get locked in for 2 years. I don't think there's a way to verify channels themselves without activating service, is there?

    Does D* have some kind of "money back guarantee" period after activation to avoid paying cancellation fees? My signals look good in the signal strength meter, but I don't know whether I'm willing to be a few hundred dollars on it. :)
     
  8. Dec 9, 2008 #8 of 16
    jimmyv2000

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    over the last couple of months some area(Digital) locals moved to different satellites
    Boston moved last month not sure about your area.
     
  9. Dec 9, 2008 #9 of 16
    clb4g9

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    If the transponder says n/a then the information you had regarding your local spotbeam is probably outdated.....do you have any friends in your local area with DirecTV? You could always borrow their receiver and test it out at your house to verify everything is aligned correctly, although with your signal strengths there shouldn't be any reason why you wouldn't get all of the channels.
     
  10. akgarrett62

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    Nice job on the install. Did you use a meter to align it first before hooking it to the receiver...if so, what kind of meter did you use?

    I'm gonna be doing a similar self-install so that's why I ask. thanks.
     
  11. Canis Lupus

    Canis Lupus You make it, We break it

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    If your signal strengths are good, you'll get the channels. I guess one thing you could try is calling a CSR about activation, and asking them if they can send programming to you before you commit.

     
  12. gtheel

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    I only used the signal strength meters in my old DirecTivo and a borrowed H21.

    I have an old SD dish up already, so I knew about where to point the Slimline-3. I used the sun siting technique to figure out where I could mount the dish to see the 99/101/103 in my heavily wooded area. (Unfortunately, that may not work this time of year.)

    http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=63277

    Once I mounted it and peaked the 101 using the DirecTivo (make sure the mast is plumb), I used the tilt settings for the Slimline-3 on DishPointer to set the tilt.

    http://dishpointer.com/

    Based on several comments here on the board, I learned that if the 101 is well aligned, the tilt setting from DishPointer is usually good enough for the Slimline-3. (I don't know whether that's true if you also need to see the 110 and 119 with a Slimline-5 - you may need to fine tune it using the instructions in the manual.) That is what happened for me. I used the H21 to verify that the initial tilt setting gave me the 99 and 103 signal strengths I posted above.

    Hope that helps!
     
  13. 2dogz

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    Be sure to ask about any of their "welcome back" incentives/discounts/freebees to see if you can cash in on any deals.
     
  14. akgarrett62

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    On The Slimline3 and SWM3, do you have to worry about any LNB "skew" ? I don't know much about that, so didn't know if you have to worry any about it or not.
     
  15. Canis Lupus

    Canis Lupus You make it, We break it

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    Assuming the SL3 is has the same adjustments as the 5LNB SLimline, there are 3 adjustments - Elevation, Azimuth (side to side), and Tilt (rotation of the dish [like a steering wheel])
     
  16. gtheel

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    Also, I think what D* calls "tilt" is the same as what DishPointer calls "skew"
     

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