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SixtoReport: D10/D12 Satellite Info in Post#1 - Both D10 & D12 in service

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Sixto, May 7, 2010.

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  1. May 7, 2010 #61 of 1252
    georule

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    Does it strike anyone else as odd that they'd leave it broadcasting to customers while on the move and *then* offload it, rather than offload it and then move it? Something to do with how our home boxes would like that kind of thing, perhaps? Can the dish on my roof "see" 102.6? Or just before it crosses over some window threshhold they pull the great switcheroonie and hope no one at home does a Matrix-like "dejavu" with the black cat walking by?

    My grandfather the civil engineer would have used a great old 1980s phrase to describe part of what likely happened at 76 degrees testing. He'd have said "It is intuitively obvious to the most casual observer. . . " that they must have been doing some testing on the D10 fix.

    This is almost certainly a software fix of some kind, right? They don't have little sleeping robots up there that will wake up, pull out their cutting torches and spare ASICs and go to work at a command from the ground? Umm, right?

    So likely they tested D12 at 76 with two sets of software --the original D10 package and a "new" software package aimed at fixing the problems with D10, and checked the results. Well, and maybe a third package --"D12 final", in case the D12 hardware is a bit tweaked in the interim since the D10 hardware.
     
  2. May 7, 2010 #62 of 1252
    TheRatPatrol

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    This wait is killing me! ;)
     
  3. May 7, 2010 #63 of 1252
    Athlon646464

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    I'm a Boston sports nut.

    Tonight, all at the same time, we have the Bruins playing a playoff game.

    We have the Celtics playing a playoff game.

    The Red Sox are playing the Yankees at Fenway.

    And I sit here watching these two threads!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek2:
     
  4. May 7, 2010 #64 of 1252
    georule

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    Go Bruins! (Old school Pens fan here; deep is my Flyers hatred).
     
  5. May 7, 2010 #65 of 1252
    Jason Whiddon

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    Theyll light up the premiums, ya know thats coming. Gotta get those money channels up.
     
  6. May 7, 2010 #66 of 1252
    am7crew

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    wow so the new 30 channels is turning into 10 or am I misreading/understanding this.
     
  7. May 7, 2010 #67 of 1252
    Jason Whiddon

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    Only temporary, it's just an annoying delay.
     
  8. May 7, 2010 #68 of 1252
    Athlon646464

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    They are turning into more than 30....

    BTW, D* said 30 new beginning in May (not all 30), and that is what will happen. In the end there will be more than that after D10 is repaired. It will likely mean more HD for some local channels too!
     
  9. May 7, 2010 #69 of 1252
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    More like 5 for May. More down the road. SOON
     
  10. May 7, 2010 #70 of 1252
    Sixto

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    It's going to be really cool to see D12 max'ed out so soon.

    No need to wait and speculate all year on how much D12 will eventually be able to do nationally, we'll know soon.

    And then we can add that to what we already know about D10.
     
  11. May 7, 2010 #71 of 1252
    thelucky1

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    YES exciting news indeed! Thanks for the info satelliteracer!
     
  12. May 7, 2010 #72 of 1252
    Sixto

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    "results" :)
     
  13. May 7, 2010 #73 of 1252
    Athlon646464

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    'for the first wave'?
     
  14. May 7, 2010 #74 of 1252
    GregLee

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    I'm having some difficulty letting myself be carried along on this wave of euphoria. We were going to get 30 HD channels in May, but now it's down to 5 or so, and this is really cool?
     
  15. May 7, 2010 #75 of 1252
    Sixto

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    Options:
    30 in May, and never fix D10.

    5 in May, fix D10 forever, 25 a little later.​

    Easy choice.

    And I'm just curious to see all the movement, and see D12 max'ed out. :)
     
  16. May 7, 2010 #76 of 1252
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    Actually, it is, I believe, possible that fixing the D10 spots could increase the capacity of the national channels if there is some creative arrangement of spots and frequencies going on...

    I believe right now they are using 6 different transponder frequencies for D10 and D11, and I am thinking that if they can get D10 fixed, and d12 working with it correctly, they might be able to cut down the number of transponder frequencies to say 5 or even 4 depending on how they arrange things. And if that is possible, then we will see another transponder or two possibly lit up for national programing that we haven't been expecting.

    Also, who's to say they don't need these additional spotbeams working to follow through with adding a lot more locals to existing markets, say all the locals that are in hd? In a few years, if they offer one hd channel in a market, they need to be able to offer ALL hd channels in a market, so that may also be why getting D10 spots fixed is critical...

    And also, don't forget, we have no idea how they are planning on making a huge increase in VOD programing available to customers, and maybe the spots have something to do with that as well in some way.. in conjunction with the spaceways, and the other d10 and d11.... I know no one here seems to care about that, but I am curious about it myself....
     
  17. May 7, 2010 #77 of 1252
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    Sorry if I missed the answer somewhere.

    Sixto how many spotbeams are currently not working on D10?
     
  18. May 7, 2010 #78 of 1252
    inkahauts

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    They only have so many spotbeams available to them right now, doubling the amount could allow them to use less transponder frequencies, or at the very least, allow them to DOUBLE their local channel capacity in every area that has spotbeams now.. That means more than just the prime 5 or 10 hd channels now, and also means that maybe some sub channels may be lit up...

    There are HUGE implications to getting this fixed.
     
  19. May 7, 2010 #79 of 1252
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    The tighter they are to each other, the easier it is for people to get higher signals form all the birds at the same time, based on the angles of the dishes, from more places in the us...
     
  20. May 7, 2010 #80 of 1252
    Sixto

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    Have never done the LiL analysis, but D10 has about 60 less HD LiL then D11.

    I've just focused on the national with gct/doctor j posting the LiL stuff.
     
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