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SixtoReport: D12 Satellite Info in Post#1 - Live!

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  1. Jan 19, 2010 #2321 of 10270
    wmb

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    It seems the FCC has said no to Spectrum Five a couple of times on this, so this brings up a couple of questions, maybe someone will know...

    Is there any reason for DirectV to formally respond to this? (i would make a phone call, to gauge the need for a written response)

    Can the FCC ignore this filing?

    If not, is there a required timeframe for a response?

    If the FCC turns this request down, or does not respond, does Spectrum Five have a judicial option (standing)?

    Could Spectrum Five get some sort of injunction to stop DirectV from using the slot?

    As long as Spectrum Five does not have a satellite in position to use this location, is this a moot issue - that is, could DirectV argue against an injuction or that they have not actually damamged Spectrum Five by DirectV's use of this slot as Spectrum Five does not have the capability to use it?

    Other thoughts?
     
  2. Jan 19, 2010 #2322 of 10270
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    Spectrum Five is starting to act and sound like pre-school kids that are angry because they are not getting their way. What a pain in the butt!
     
  3. Jan 20, 2010 #2323 of 10270
    Mike Bertelson

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    They want the FCC to rescind the grant to RB-2A...saying that they had their petition filed first, and that D* was approved "out of order" of the first-come, first-served principle. No mention of the fact that Spectrum Five has nothing built and ready to launch/operate....
     
  5. Jan 20, 2010 #2325 of 10270
    Mike Bertelson

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    I finally got it at work.

    So they want the launch authority rescinded or modified....kinda late don't ya think? :rolleyes:

    Mike
     
  6. Jan 20, 2010 #2326 of 10270
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    Those guys are just going to keep on coming up with something until they get their way.
     
  7. Jan 20, 2010 #2327 of 10270
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    I believe it's mostly the BSS package on D12. So everything else would be OK, just not BSS.

    To me, I just don't get them as a company. Honestly, who in their right mind would get into the business now, if it's to provide TV service in the US?
     
  8. Jan 20, 2010 #2328 of 10270
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    Why are you still using IE? It is the least standards compliant, most vunerable and slowest of all browsers available. Do yourself a favor. Download any other browser available.
     
  9. Jan 20, 2010 #2329 of 10270
    Mike Bertelson

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    Actually it didn't crash IE8, it just crashed the linked window. IE8 kept running. I've used them all I'll stick with IE8.

    Ok everyone, it seems like Spectrum Five is playing semantics games but to what end?

    Why would they care about what slot IOT takes place in?

    I guess I don't know enough about how the actual broadcast frequencies work to glean how it affects them.

    Mike
     
  10. Jan 20, 2010 #2330 of 10270
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    While I personally wouldn't use any version of IE, at least you aren't one of the people out there who still use IE6.
     
  11. Jan 20, 2010 #2331 of 10270
    bobnielsen

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    I think they feel that if the 74 deg. testing is approved, it makes it more likely that Directv's BSS operation at 103 will go ahead. RB-2 was first in line for 103 and Spectrum five is next. They have tried to make a point that because the RB-2 application had some errors, it should be rejected completely which would put them first and because RB-2A is a separate satellite, it should have a later place in line. The FCC hasn't bought that argument.
     
  12. Jan 20, 2010 #2332 of 10270
    Sixto

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    Update #35 on the way ... 33 008 x 38 510 km ... gap down 625 ..
     
  13. Jan 20, 2010 #2333 of 10270
    Sixto

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    Code:
    Name			DirecTV-12
    NORAD #			36131
    COSPAR designator	2009-075-A  
    Epoch (UTC)		01-20-2010 17:08:34
    Orbit # at Epoch	30
    Inclination		0.201
    RA of A. Node		267.082
    Eccentricity		0.0652858
    Argument of Perigee	194.216
    Revs per day		1.00371709
    Period			23h 54m 40s (1434.67 min)
    Semi-major axis		42 137 km
    Perigee x Apogee	33 008 x 38 510 km
    Element number / age	35 / 0 day(s)
    
    Lon			76.6881° W
    Lat			0.0941° N
    Alt (km)		38 347.620
    
    [B][U] # [/u] [u] Date[/u] [u]Time GMT[/u] [u]Perigee[/u]  [u]Apogee[/u] [u]  Gap [/u] [u]Chg-Hrs[/u] [u] Day  [/u] [u]  Long  [/u] [u]  Lat  [/u] [u]Inclin[/u][/B]
    Target ----------> 35,786 x 35,786      0                 76.00°W  0.00°N  0.00°[B][COLOR="Blue"]
    035 01/20 17:08:34 [B][COLOR="Red"]33,008[/COLOR][/B] x [B][COLOR="Red"]38,510[/COLOR][/B]  5,502 +54.17H 22.70D  76.69°W  0.09°N  0.20°[/COLOR][/B]
    034 01/18 10:58:07 [B][COLOR="Red"]32,727[/COLOR][/B] x [B][COLOR="Red"]38,854[/COLOR][/B]  6,127 + 0.00H 20.44D  66.92°W  0.22°S  0.27°
    033 01/18 10:58:07 32,665 x 38,902  6,237 +43.11H 20.44D  66.56°W  0.13°S  0.18°
    032 01/16 15:51:24 32,652 x 38,907  6,255 +12.10H 18.65D  74.24°W  0.01°N  0.18°
    031 01/16 03:45:22 32,651 x 38,908  6,257 +11.03H 18.14D  75.10°W  0.00°S  0.18°
    
    [URL="http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=164555"]Post#1[/URL] has the complete history. The last 5 updates are above.
    
     
  14. Jan 20, 2010 #2334 of 10270
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    We can now start to see some progression

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    I'll do the comparison one when I get home
     
  15. Jan 20, 2010 #2335 of 10270
    Sixto

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    What's interesting is that we learned from last time (D11) is that a good average is 5.5-6km per hour over the last 30 days until parked.

    This latest update is 5.19km over the past 54 hours. This can fluctuate dramatically over a short period but was a good average over an extended time.

    Current best guess is 19.29 days (2/8/10 7:08 PM) to 21.05 days (2/10/10 1:14 PM).

    For past five days this date range has been fairly consistent.

    2/15 certainly in line so far.
     
  16. Jan 20, 2010 #2336 of 10270
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    I suspect that the very small daily changes to the orbit at this point could be associated with the deployment (or the partial deployment) of antennas and solar arrays as part of the detailed checkout process for the main systems of the spacecraft itself prior to beginning operational testing of the payloads.

    Or I could be completely wrong. :)
     
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    We got the move seen right same day.
     
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