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SixtoReport: D12 Satellite Info in Post#1 - Live!

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Sixto, Jul 27, 2008.

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  1. May 16, 2010 #10021 of 10270
    n3ntj

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    Can we assume the issue is software related for what's wrong with D10?
     
  2. May 16, 2010 #10022 of 10270
    Shades228

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    If it were software related I think it could have been fixed awhile ago without the need to move it. I would say it's most likely a physical failure and all that movement at the end of the D12 testing at 76 was a way to mitigate the hardware failure.

    My guess would be defective solar panels not providing enough power, but it's only a guess.
     
  3. May 16, 2010 #10023 of 10270
    smiddy

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    So, I suspect once we get transmission from DirecTV - 12 this thread will be closed for good. It has been one long journey for DirecTV - 12, the longest of all the three "newer" satellites. The importances of which has only been surface scratched. Those guys are DirecTV were very brilliant to have a "ground spare" since it appears they had a clear understanding of the risks. What a thing of beauty! Come on Big-D, fire up some transmissions! :D
     
  4. May 16, 2010 #10024 of 10270
    lwilli201

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    I see a mass change over most likely. All programming could be duplicated on D12 and a single guide data update would map all HD receivers to D12. When D10 is fixed all they have to do is adjust the guide data to see the appropriate sat for each channel. IMHO.
     
  5. May 16, 2010 #10025 of 10270
    Shades228

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    I could be wrong but I believe 2 different satellites broadcasting the same frequency range, even if it's the same data, would be bad.
     
  6. May 16, 2010 #10026 of 10270
    P Smith

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    Why force natural processes ? It will come to the end when it come - no need to push it into a grave.
     
  7. May 16, 2010 #10027 of 10270
    P Smith

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    I don't see it that way - see that numbers ? http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=2457679&postcount=9984
     
  8. May 16, 2010 #10028 of 10270
    lwilli201

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    It is my understanding that D10 and D12 will share different portions of the same frequency range. They will be to close together to use identical frequencies even in their permanent positions.
     
  9. May 16, 2010 #10029 of 10270
    P Smith

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    That means - each transponder (ie particular freq range) must be only one active.
     
  10. May 16, 2010 #10030 of 10270
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    Still seeing a lot of zero's

    9 - 16 78 80 83 80 56 59 46 0
    17-24 0 0 0 0 36 0 50 46

    Am I the only one seeing theze zero's?
     
  11. May 16, 2010 #10031 of 10270
    Mike Bertelson

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    I wouldn't worry too much about zeros. It's probably just testing. We'll see it cycle until they're ready to go live. ;)

    Mike
     
  12. May 16, 2010 #10032 of 10270
    bertjo44

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    No, I have been seeing zeros also but nineties as well.
     
  13. May 16, 2010 #10033 of 10270
    SpaceComo

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    DTV10 downlinks from 18.324GHz to 18.776GHz center frequencies of 24 transponders
    DTV12 downlinks from 19.890GHz to 20.170GHz center frequencies of 16 transponders

    There is NO frequency overlap, and therefore all the 24 of DTV10 and all of the 16 of DTV12 can send us programming simultaneously. As a matter of fact all tp's on DTV12 are modulated right now, may be just test patterns, but could very well be HD shows duplicating what is sent on DTV10 in anticipation of the DTV10 maintenance. All they may have to do is reprogram the guide to map the DTV12 transponders to the DirecTV channels we all know so well.

    A question for SIXTO (etal)? How do we even know that we are NOT watching DTV12 unless the 103(cb) signals go to zero or NA on or after the speculated May 19th-ish date?:eek2:
     
  14. May 16, 2010 #10034 of 10270
    bobnielsen

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    If you have BBCs, remove them and you won't get any signals from D10.
     
  15. May 16, 2010 #10035 of 10270
    matrixj3

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    103 (ca)

    93 94 94 95 92 93 93 93
    92 90 91 90 93 85 93 87
     
  16. May 16, 2010 #10036 of 10270
    Sixto

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    Post#1 has the details ... D12 shares with SW1 for national, and shares with D10 for LiL ... the guide data points the receiver to the correct Satellite/Transponder/PID for each channel.
     
  17. May 16, 2010 #10037 of 10270
    HelenWeathers

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    Here in S.E. Florida, all of my D12 TP signal strength readings are from 95-100 and have been for the last two days with the exception of TP19. It runs consistently 15-20 points lower than the others (see picture). TP19 was at around 95 here the first day D12 lit up. This leads me to ask a question.

    Are the conus transponders able to be individually aimed?
     

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  18. May 16, 2010 #10038 of 10270
    smiddy

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    I have no control over the process, but just saying it will be coming very quickly and just wanted to get a couple more cents in before it dies. I'd actually love it to stay open and thrive, but alas, I have no control of that either. As for "natural" I think it is unnatural really either way. :lol:
     
  19. May 16, 2010 #10039 of 10270
    vroten

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    Like many most of my 103 (ca) and (cb) signals were in the 60-70 range. I decided to do a little "adjustment" myself. As of 6:30 PM in northwestern NC with cloudy skies here are my #'s

    103 (ca)

    1-8 96 96 95 95 95 95 95 95
    9-16 95 95 82 94 95 95 95 95


    103 (cb)

    1-8 95 95 91 88 93 91 87 85
    9-16 90 89 88 86 91 90

    101

    1-8 98 99 96 95 97 100 97 100
    9-16 97 99 97 92 97 100 96 100
    17-24 97 0 96 97 97 100 97 100
    25-32 98 51 98 0 100 100 98 100

    Three transponders on 110 are at 90 96 and 95

    119

    22-24 99 82 100
    25-32 95 99 100 99 83 100 100 99

    Needless to say all the bolts are tight and unless some catastrophe happens I believe I am "set.":D

    :lol:
     
  20. May 16, 2010 #10040 of 10270
    Steve

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    Pretty impressive numbers for a 5-LNB dish, IMHO. Nice work! :up:
     
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