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Slimline is only a roof install?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by ruffneckc, Dec 6, 2007.

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  1. Mike500

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    The only thing that I'd do to your existing mount would be to add a second monopole and fasten it to a bracket on the side of the rafter up from the bottom of the roof. Currently, the plane formed by the pole and the current monopole is weakest in that area. It is like a gate with the hingeline being a line between the mounting foot and the monopole's anchoring point on the facia.
     
  2. crankin

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    Mike

    If I were to purchase that adapter, who would actually install the dish? I am not really capable of any sort of installation like this. And it seems that hiring an independent contractor who has no idea how to align a dish would not be the best choice either.
     
  3. Mike500

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    I'd try a local dealer, instead of a RSP like Halstead or Mastec, who are dictated to install one way or are trained to install only a certain way. Most of the fulfillment providers have a MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY attitude, since they are maid very little per job and want easy and quantity.

    DirecTV has been known to reimbuse customers the charges incurred.
     
  4. crankin

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    Is there any easy way to search for local dealers? Would that sort of thing be in the yellow pages under Satellite or something like that?
     
  5. Mike500

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    Try www.yellowpages.com
     
  6. crzychrisj

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    To the OP, I understand your frustration with the morons at Halstead, as I got the same spiel about replacing my 3LNB with the slimline. Install was scheduled for the Saturday afternoon after Thanksgiving.

    The clown showed up, took one look, said only place he could install was the roof, I said no way not gonna happen because my townhouse just got a new roof. He said only other option was a pole but he couldn't do that because he didn't have one long enough, and some trees magically got in the way. He put me on the phone with his idiot supervisor so the second guy could tell me the same thing, and oh if I wanted they would leave the receiver and I could continue using the 3LNB but not get any of the new channels. Yeah, I don't think so buddy.

    They are impossible to deal with, I had to call Directv to reschedule and attempt to get a competent installer out. They are scheduled for this Wednesday morning. I'm keeping my fingers crossed, but not holding my breath. This is Halstead we're dealing with still. :mad:

    Good luck to you!
     
  7. davring

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    Welcome to DBSTalk!

    Too bad getting an ambitious installer is a crap shoot, such a waste of everyones time. I have seen only maybe one in ten that really care about doing a good job and making the customer feel good when everything is finished. Unfortunately the competent people seem to be overworked fixing all the bad installs.
     
  8. mpaquette

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    I'm anxious to see what happens when my installer shows up tomorrow. After a 1 year hiatus from Directv, I've decided to come back. Placed my order for an HR20/21 online and the install is set for tomorrow. I want the slimline to be installed on a pole. Should be interesting.
     
  9. K4SMX

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    Yes, it should be. A pole mount is not a one day job. The pole doesn't have to be unnecessarily long. There's no way adding just a few feet to a pole is going to convert a "no-go" LOS into one that works. Assuming you are barely skimming a tree top on the lowest satellite, trees grow. Most likely there were never any LOS issues at all, if he's talking about needing a longer pole. BTW, pole mounts of the 5 LNB dish for advanced receiver installations are supposed to be free, and hopefully he will have a 2" O.D. pole. The DirecTV spec's call for 150 lbs. of concrete. That's probably a bit of overkill, but watch out for guys that just want to drive the pole into the ground. The 5 LNB dish is too heavy and unbalanced for the old 18" round dish tricks. Good luck with all that.

    Get hold of a level between now and then so you can periodically check the plumb while the concrete's drying. It's also a good idea to drill a hole at the base of the pole and put a bolt through it, in case the concrete for whatever reason doesn't adhere to the pole. It has happened.

    You'll be very happy with a good pole mount. It's the safest for lightning strikes and makes dish re-alignment an easy do-it-yourself proposition.
     
  10. mpaquette

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    Yep, I agree with everything you said. I've 2 pole mounts myself in the past. I never had any issues with either of those installations. I'll be watching this guy like a hawk. If it comes down to it, I'll install my own pole before I let them do a hack job with it.
     
  11. cweave02

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    This may be a stupid question, but can you use the same pole for the 5LNB and a Yagi on top, or will they interfere with each other?
     
  12. K4SMX

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    That won't work, because the dish mount "stops" sit squarely on top of the mast. The mast doesn't slide through the mount. In addition, the EL adjustment of the dish, at least in your location, places the top of the dish in the path of the extended vertical line of the mast. They sell mast mounting brackets (as well as mast sections) for securing masts to flat vertical surfaces at home improvement stores, two to a pack.
     
  13. cweave02

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    Thanks - my former law partner had three huge towers in his back yard (and I do mean huge), and I am hoping to not emulate him in that respect. May have to do some creative tinkering.
     
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    Dave, thanks for the welcome! I've been lurking for a long time but just got around to posting when I saw someone in the same situation as me.

    Mpaquette, how did your install go today? I am not looking forward to mine tomorrow.

    Ruffneckc, have you made any progress on getting a re-sched? These guys are booked solid and I've been waiting for weeks, so I know if tomorrow's install doesn't go well I'm gonna be sitting on my thumbs for another month.
     
  16. K4SMX

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    If you're trying to get the ATL HD's, you're going to need a fairly decent antenna and an antenna amplifier from up there near Athens. They're all UHF stations, except for the NBC affilliate, which is on CH 10. Plus, I don't know when WGTV is going to finally get their HD transmitter going, but it's going to be a 15 kw peanut whistle on CH 12 on top of Stone Mountain.

    Actually, the AVL-GVL-SPA-AND stations are closer to you by far. They're all UHF, so you could get away with a UHF-only antenna for now. Also, you've got the Augusta stations to your east, which are the next closest.

    Check out the TVfool website. Very cool. This should be interesting. PM or e-mail me for further detailed planning. Hopefully you're on at least flat terrain.
     
  17. Tyralak

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    We use these really great mounts for tile roofs at Dish. They're called "Versitile Mounts". They cause no damage to the roof, and stands up to quite a bit of wind. http://www.versatilemount.com/versatilemount/products.htm
     
  18. ibcbw

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    I think that guy was pumping you full of it. I also live in an apartment and i had a slimline mounted on the side of my balcony.
     
  19. cweave02

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    I would be happy with non HD ATL stations! Love the website. Will e-mail later - probably won't deal with it until after I get back from Christmas.

    My former partner had towers taller than our local radio tation. He was a prolific HAM. I hope to ask for his callsign when it finally lapses.
     
  20. K4SMX

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    Since he's a "Silent Key," maybe you could lawyer that along with the approval of the family. Can the deceased hold FCC licenses? When they get around to taking down all that Rohn 25G, you could use a stick or two as well....
     
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