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Slimline setup problems

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by Molerj, Sep 9, 2012.

  1. Sep 9, 2012 #1 of 45
    Molerj

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    Presently have a H-20 receiver and a 3-LNB (18x20) dish Switch type 02 Multi switch. The LNB is BSNA4-2028. All works fine. Now I want to get the HD channels so I got a Slimline Dish with a SWM SL3S4NR2-01 LNB
    I got the correct dish settings for my zip code 39 elevation and 67 tilt. I can't get any signal. Went through setup and am not having any luck. Can't get any signal at all. I have the dishes on poles right beside each other. I have tried moving the azimuth very slowly back and forth but still can't get anything. Any ideas?
     
  2. Sep 9, 2012 #2 of 45
    Molerj

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    Also, I have a b band converter installed. When I go to setup and select the slimline 3 dish and the swm switch type, it says do not use b band converter. So I removed it and tried and still I get no signal. I am trying on sat 101 which has 32 transponders.
     
  3. Sep 9, 2012 #3 of 45
    Davenlr

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    Did you buy a power inserter for your SWM LNB?
     
  4. Sep 9, 2012 #4 of 45
    studechip

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    Did you install the power inserter? You need the 21 volt model. Don't use your setup without it.
    After you get the power inserter installed, post your signal strengths on all of the satellites.
    Oops! I see I was beaten to the punch!
     
  5. Sep 9, 2012 #5 of 45
    Molerj

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    Thanks guys, no I did not. I wasn't aware that I needed it. So, will I get no signal at all if the power inserter isn't installed?
     
  6. Sep 9, 2012 #6 of 45
    Davenlr

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    Correct, and trying to run it without the power inserter may cause the LNB to try to draw to much current from the receiver damaging its power supply. Get the power inserter to power the LNB, and then you should be good to go.
     
  7. Sep 9, 2012 #7 of 45
    Molerj

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    And, do I need to use the b band converter with the slimline & swm lnb
    ?
     
  8. Sep 9, 2012 #8 of 45
    Davenlr

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    No BBC is required with SWM
     
  9. Sep 9, 2012 #9 of 45
    Molerj

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    Thanks, the power inserter has been ordered!! :grin:Anxious for it to get here. Watching the football games on a 55" lcd tv sucks when it isn't in HD. :(
     
  10. Davenlr

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    I can imagine. If you are close enough to a big city, you might be able to pick up HD with the tuner built into the TV, using a small wire plugged into the antenna jack or an indoor antenna.
     
  11. Molerj

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    Inserter came today. Installed it and still can't get a signal. Tried changing the elevation in increments of a few degrees from 20 to 50. Still couldn't pick up anything. Should I try buying one of those cheap signal meters to at least know I am properly aligned? Could the LNB be the problem?
     
  12. Davenlr

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    Are you installing it in the same location as the old dish? Pointing it the same direction?
    If the pole is plumb, which it needs to be, you can preset the tilt and elevation, tune in a transponder on 101, and just sweep the whole mount on the pole to find the azimuth, and then lock it down and peak.
    Dont try to aim it using the 99 or 103 satellites until you get 101 at least to 90.
     
  13. Molerj

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    It is 3 feet away from the other dish. Pole is plumb. Used the dish pointing settings 39 & 67. Swept it left and right at slight increments and waiting a few seconds in between. TV and receiver on and set to signal meter. I get nothing. Also I am at sat 101.
     
  14. Davenlr

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    When you preset elevation, did you use the nut or the red line on the bracket showing through the bolt slot?
     
  15. Molerj

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    Here is what I did.
    Went to sat setup screen
    Put in slimline 3 and swm
    went to dish pointing and got 39 & 67
    went to signal meter
    installed inserter with power to swm connected to dish and signal to IRD to receiver
    Removed coax from old oval dish & connected to slimline dish.
    adjusted dish right to left and back at an inch or two increments- got nothing
    lowered to 37 & tried
    lowered to 35 & tried
    lowered to 32 & tried etc. up and down.
     
  16. Molerj

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    Used the bracket, if I understand you correctly. I also looked at a nearby neighbors settings and mimicked those so I'm pretty sure I'm on the right track.
     
  17. Davenlr

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    This is the correct info for Cincinatti. If you are further north, it might be a little lower.
    Dish elevation= 37.6, Azimuth= 222.5 (magnetic compass), Polarisation= 27.8
     
  18. Molerj

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    43943
     
  19. Davenlr

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    My bad, wrong satellite... Should be Dish elevation= 39.0, Azimuth= 217.8 (magnetic compass), Polarisation= 22.3
     
  20. Molerj

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    not real sure what you mean on polarization. I really need to make sure I'm alingned right before I go any farther. Maybe the LNB is bad. I don't know. I work on small engines as a side job and if there isn't any spark, it ain't gonna run.
     

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