. . . can't I get recordings then? AND if it doesn't go off until, I've seen it still running at 11am and can randomly join channels, use it as a recording source? That ties up a whole tuner while it's running and I can't use it to record. If only!!!? I have noticed that PTAT starts everyday at 5:28pm, but only captures recordings from 7pm and stops randomly whenever. And have noticed that if a timer is on the tail end of the night that it will come off that tuner and then as soon as it's done, the tuner reverts. Hmmmm, curious.