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So what's everyone going to do on April 1?

Discussion in 'Other HD Receiver Support Forum (811, 921, 942)' started by Airblair, Feb 23, 2006.

  1. pkeenan

    pkeenan Cool Member

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    I'm staying put with my 921. I recently purchased the Terk HDTVS and I have to say it has given me the absolute best picture I've ever received in terms of "Over The Air" picture. It's outstanding! Granted I'm only 25 - 30 miles from some of the transmitters in LA. I now record American Idol and 24 in DT on KTTV. It's great. Hopefully the stations will populate some of the channels with something more than weather and traffic in the future. I'm waiting till it croaks.
     
  2. dr928gt

    dr928gt Cool Member

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    >I'm waiting till it croaks.

    Interesting thought! I have already leased 2 622s and am using my 921 in my shop/garage for recording car related stuff. I couldn't stomach getting $200 rebate for something that cost a grand (bought it the first week they came out) when I can still use that big drive for recording lots of stuff. I have the Dish "Insurance" and I wonder if my 921 dies later on what they will do. Replace it with a refurb 921?... or replace it with a 622????
     
  3. Ron Barry

    Ron Barry 622 Tips & Trick Keeper

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    After April 1st, my guess is you will get a referb 921. They are going to have a lot of them on their hands for sure.
     
  4. IowaStateFan

    IowaStateFan Godfather

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    There are reports on this board that some users have had dead 921s replaced with refurbished 942s. I suspect it will be awhile yet before they use 622s as replacements.
     
  5. mrb627

    mrb627 Mentor

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    I myself am a little apprehensive to venture into yet another venture with DN. Especially when the bug fix seems to fall short of any expectations for a resolution time and again. Unfortunately, it seems that all providers are having problems in some form or another. I don't want to be a beta tester for anyone.
     
  6. rkh

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    Have any of you been watching the vip622 forum? A post went up today for a poll on how many are having problems -- so far only a few have responded, but of those, over 50+% are having problems!! At least with the 921, I'm familiar with what to expect and how to get out of most issues (reboot!!!) --I think I'll wait a while and try to get a little more use out of this box I paid (too much??) for.
     
  7. lujan

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    Yes, I'm with you about waiting but, "how long will the rebate be in effect?" You don't want to wait too long if the rebate is only for a short time.
     
  8. Ron Barry

    Ron Barry 622 Tips & Trick Keeper

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    Some food for thought... If you placed the same poll into the 921 forum. What do you think the outcome would be? The poll you mentioned is a very limited poll and by no means is an indication that 70% of the people are not happy the 622 from what I can tell from reading a lot of the threads as I go through my decision process.

    A good poll from this perspective would be one that is more geared towards 921 users that already made the switch and are finding the 622 more stable and are they happier with the feature set and reliability of the 622 over the 921.

    Not sure how many of those users we have, but I would personally consider that frame of reference to be the most useful as I make my decision when to make the move.
     
  9. ClaudeR

    ClaudeR Godfather

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    You forgot the $6 enable fee and the $6 DVR fee and whatever other fee Dish dreams up in the next 18 months. :mad:
     
  10. BobaBird

    BobaBird EKB Editor

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    That's a rather pessimistic view, Claude. I'm sure it won't take anywhere near that long!
     
  11. MrJ

    MrJ Cool Member

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    There's an upgrade in my future. I'll probably wait for a while if the rebate allows. I haven't seen anything in the new HD programming that I care about yet, but the 622 itself is at least a little better. Unfortunately, my 921 hard disk failed last week, after warranty, and before the trade in rebate. They must have designed that thing to amplify the noise of a bad hard disk, the clunking was almost musical. A new (remanufactured) 921 arrived today and is now up and running. Interestingly the replacement cost is only $20 (so far).
     
  12. hoehemi1

    hoehemi1 Cool Member

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    Have a 921 and overall the unit worked OKish. I will wait for April 1st - and then get the 99 $ upgrade.

    reasons for me are:

    ESPN2 for 2006 world cup in HD
    Named Based recording
    Local HD channels
    Pocket Dish (Travel a lot and already have an older Archos unit, will buy the AV500e to download vs real-time recording I do today)
    Expectation that 622 will be a bit more reliable than the 921
     
  13. Ron Barry

    Ron Barry 622 Tips & Trick Keeper

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    I created a POLL in the 622 forum asking 921/942 users to chime in. Hopefully there is enough of the people that jumped early to give the people that waited their impressions.

    http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=55203
     
  14. IowaStateFan

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    That's really cool! Thanks Ron!!
     
  15. Grandude

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    I'm going to sit back, relax and watch the 'feeding frenzy'.
    Maybe later on when the SF locals are provided in HD I'll get more interested in upgrading. Right now my 921 seems to be running 'pretty good'.
    Brian
     
  16. DonLandis

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    Well, time is drawing near and so I decided to visit the 622 section here.

    Yikes! have you all been reading about all the bugs in that thing? I don't know but I'm having second thoughts about having to give up my 921 which for the most part has been working fine since they fixed the bad video 14 months ago. The 622 bug list is scary! go to change channels and the thing reboots on it's own. Recall the GSOD? Video loss while watching a program. Audio hits. Is everyone here looking at the 622 through Rose colored glasses? Frankly, someone needs to reasure me that all these complaints on the 622 are just some nightmare and it will all be better when mine arrives. To tell you what I think the 622 seems to be like the 921 after it was out for 3 months. I don't want to revisit that time again. The only thing that saved my sanity back then was to go buy the HDTIVO.

    DishNetwork needs to understand something. I'M NOT a beta testor! So sell me a product that works or I don't want to pay for the programming.

    I'm having second thoughts about sending in my 921 if this 622 performs as the threads rate it. What do you people think, and please take off your rose colored glasses. Grass is not greener on the 622 side of the hill as far as I can see.
     
  17. lujan

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    I have to agree with you. I'm now using the 942 because my 921 decided it didn't want to take any more updates. I sent it back in expecting another 921 but was lucky enough to get a 942 instead. The 942 is working trouble free for about a week now with no significant problems and I don't want to go through another fiasco with the 622 like we did with the 921.
     
  18. boylehome

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    I'm gonna try and lease me another one. Still, as compared to how the 622 works as a new release vs. how the 921 worked as a new release is like night and day. The 622 rocks minus the resets and audio drop outs.
     
  19. Ron Barry

    Ron Barry 622 Tips & Trick Keeper

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    Don:

    Tough call. If you look at the poll I posted today, most of the 921 users that jumped early are glad they did. I know it is a small sample, but it is one data point.

    Given your frustration level on the 921 and your post, I would recommend given the 622 more time to cook. Seems the lion share of the issues are audio related and like any board you read, the view is slanted towards the bad experiences. Whenever I get ready to buy a product and I go to the website for finaly opinions, I always walk away wondering if I made the right choice. Tough decision specially for the folks with a lot of 921 history.

    For me.. I am pretty sure I am going to make the jump. My main reason is for the NBR capabilities and would like to have another set of HD locals to record from. We all have our requirements and hot buttons..

    For anyone sitting on the fence and are happy with your current situation, waiting is definitely an option. On the other side of the argument, I have read a lot of positive posts in the 622 area also.

    Well good luck making your move Don. Either way you go, I hope it turns to an improvement.
     
  20. DonLandis

    DonLandis Hall Of Fame

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    "The 622 rocks minus the resets and audio drop outs."

    Thanks for making my point!

    Like saying the 921 rocked when it first came out minus the resets and all the system lockups.

    I have come to learn that there are issues we will tolerate with out DBS receivers / DVRs and others that are intolerable. eg.
    Tolerable bugs:
    locked aspect ratio, caller ID not working, lack of guide data forcing one to do manual record, incorrect title in the recorded shows listing. occasional timer failure
    Intolerable bugs:
    Constant reboots while watching a show. Audio that is intermittent. Video that goes black requiring a forced reboot taking 5 minutes to get picture back. Loss of DBS satellite lock.

    There is a huge difference between minor annoying bugs and those that prevent you from watching or recording your programming.

    I know the 622 is a required addition if I wish to have DishNetwork and the new HDTV programming with a DVR capability. But, my point was do I return the 921 which basically has had NO intolerable bugs for 14 months and be left with a 622 that takes me back 2 years when we had the GSOD's and lockups with the 921 that are now gone.


    Based on the listing of all the problems, intolerable problems I read about the 622, I'm in no rush right now and will decide when to bring one in based on two factors, the expiration of the rebate and the ability of E* to fix these bugs as evidenced by the user reports here.

    I'm not so sure that we are seeing one data point here. Maybe one forum collection of data but when the same complaint surfaces around the country from a number of users, one has to figure what the common issue is. It is either the 622, the signal or user.

    I will be watching more closely, now, the 622 forum and number of complaints. I suggest anyone who is getting good results now with the 921 / 942 do a similar cautionary move.

    If I am forced to give up the 921 to get the rebate credit deal then I will call and ask for a credit for every time the 622 causes me to miss a program due to an "Intolerable bug" Basically, I'm tired of E*'s big on promises and little on performance with their hardware. I suggest you all do the same.
     

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