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Software Release: HR20: DC Banter

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by naijai, Oct 10, 2006.

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  1. matto

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    Thanks. I have a great muse.
     
  2. wg8170

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    So let me make sure I understand...you would rather have completely missed or unwatchable recordings rather than not be able to FF through a couple of commercials in an otherwise fine recording? To each his own, but my MAIN reason for having a DVR is so I don't have to be a slave to the networks schedule. I'm not saying we shouldn't expect it to be able to do both reliably, but your comment seems to reek of "cutting off your nose to spite your face".

    If this update really does fix the BSOD and missed recordings, then its more like 3 forward and 1 back. That "one back" will probably be a quick fix once they track down where in the code that they introduced it.

    I am not neccesarily trying to defend DTV here, but I think some on this board are starting to make overly dramatic statements.

    -wg
     
  3. chicago_king

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    Only have this box a week, I am not at the frustration level that some of the other members are, but I must say I am seeing much improvement with this latest update compared to when I first connected it. My playbacks do not freeze for me anymore which I was near re-connecting my HR10-250 again.

    I think as long as the basics work I can deal with the other issues knowing that they will eventually be fixed.

    I may change my tune though if things start to pop up on me.
     
  4. matto

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    I agree completely, these people who expect fast forward to work are whining crybabies.
     
  5. Wolffpack

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    Wow, I didn't realize this was an exclusive club in which one needed to own a HR20 in order to comment.
     
  6. jkc120

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    God, I hope so. I can just hear my wife tonight when we watch Lost. "Why did we get the POS thing? We NEVER had problems before. Why do we need HD?" etc, etc.

    She's already pissed today since the last two days of Oprah were nuked. One was the complete lock up problem I've been having, and today the local HD feed was hosed. Even though that was clearly a feed problem, she lumps it all together and blames the HR20. In a sense it's true, since it's because of the HD channels.

    Anyway, I hope they fix this FFW thing. I'm sure I'll here no end of it tonight when we go to watch a show. It happens even for older recordings from 0xD8 and prior, too. sigh.
     
  7. PoitNarf

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    Your comments are certainly welcomed here by me Wolffpack, as they are usually more articulate than many here who have the HR20. Wolffpack could very well be one of the people such as myself who do have the HR20 but are having very few problems; doesn't mean you don't have the right to comment about the problems if you're not experiencing them first hand.
     
  8. Wolffpack

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    Couldn't really pick a post to respond directly to, so let's keep this general.

    To all those that state "software development is tough", "coding this type of application is hard" and "we could be hurting someone's feelings" I say BS. If those that code devices such as this can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. Would I want to do it, no. Do I, no. But for those that do this (or claim to do it) for a living that's their profession. Geez, what a bunch of cry babies. You want to give the HR20 a pass because "that's hard work" and "the teams going a good as they can"?

    What about a surgeon? That's dag-gone hard work too. Stuff I couldn't ever imagine doing. But if someone chooses that as their profession they should be capable of performing that job. I can just hear it now, "well brain surgery is tough, we could cut them some slack if they loose every couple of patients.".

    Just an amazing view on the situation. :nono2:
     
  9. Earl Bonovich

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    A new discussion thread about the release... and just the release.

    Please... 300+ posts, and we haven't even reached primetime recording with the new software...

    You can continue any of the above conversations in here... but try to move any truely release related points to the new thread.

    and if you don't see yoru post here..
    Means I probably moved it to the new thread.

    As of tomorrow morning, I will be closing this particular thread.
     
  10. Earl Bonovich

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    Scratch that...

    What I am going to do... is go through this thread... and take out all the non-release banter... and move it to it's own thread.

    Bare with me while I do this.
     
  11. PoitNarf

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    Baring with the bear... :lol:
     
  12. pcates

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    In reading through the thread I find it difficult to figure out what problems are still there and/or which new ones have shown up in the latest update. For the thread to be more useful to other users and the development team problems should be reported with as much info as possible. A statement like "it worked fine before now it is a POS" doesn't help anyone except the person venting. Perhaps there should be a seperate thread where everyone can vent their frustrations.

    As it appears that the HR20 performs well for some users (including me) but has multiple issues for others, the bugs depend on many factors. Sometimes it may not be what you are trying to do but what you did previously or how you got to the point that gave you the problem, what data streams were being recorded, etc.

    It would be helpful to give as much detail as possible to resolve the problems for everyone. Information like: What channel, time, what was going on at the time etc. could be helpful in duplicating the problem or helpinh others avoid it

    I understand the fustration everyone is having and the stress any issue might generate (I have a wife too). The problem(s) I had with earlier updates and the differences from Tivo don't bother me too much (I would have gotten the HR20 if I had to boot it from Paper Tape after a lockup) but that doesn't make it OK for everyone.

    I hope all the problems are resolved on a timely basis and new feature are put in as time goes on.

    I haven't been around on the forum for long and I hope i am not out of line.
     
  13. Wolffpack

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    I do not have a HR20. I've had a R15 for some time now and regardless if some here do or do not see the similarity between the development/debugging of these two units, they are much the same.

    Myself, I have two HR10s and use OTA for all my HD. No OTA reception is a stopper for me at this point, even though MPEG4 locals are available here. I'm also holding off until the "Slimeline" starts appearing and may keep waiting until I start seeing more MPEG4 HD national channels in the lineup. With my current location there's really no need to jump on the "bleeding edge" with a HR20.

    However, at the point I do take that "leap" and depending on it's status at that point, it may or may not take it's place in one of our main viewing rooms. Heck, even my R15 is still only in my office.

    But as this thread is regarding the software update, I'll keep my comments to a minimum and start other threads if I feel the need. Sorry to keep this baby going OT Earl.
     
  14. jbstix

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    You're right - I apologize. How dare I expect an update to fix one problem, but not expect it to cause several others.
    I should just be happy that DTV allows me the honor of paying $80+/ month and being an (unadvised) beta tester for it's new HD DVR.
    Thank God, I left my HR10 active for a backup.
    good luck to everyone...
     
  15. bakerfall

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    I'm having a problem with my HR20 with this release that I have not had in the past. Whenever I try and FF in a MPEG4 recording, it freezes and does not FF. 30 second skip works. This is the case with recordings both before and after the update.
     
  16. matto

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    This is a new feature in the 0xDC release!
    You should be thanking DirecTV for it!
    How dare you complain!!!!
     
  17. wg8170

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    Your reply is completely out of context with with your original post. You originally implied that you would have rather not have reliable recordings if it meant not being able to fast forward. I was saying (and still say) that that attitude is frustration-induced melo-drama. I NEVER said that you shouldn't expect both (that would be ridiculous), merely that one of those two is far more beneficial than the other.

    Good Lord the jackass-ery is running high in this thread. I should have know it would be impossible to try and make a level-headed post without someone making some snide comment. See my statement above. I never implied that anybody was whining.

    Everybody needs to drop the defensiveness level down a few notches.

    -wg
     
  18. matto

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    I never said you did! My whole point is that all these wimps who are crying about their DVR's not working need to get a life! Nobody promised them a working product! And they will definately never get one as long as they keep hurting the DIRECTV SOFTWARES ENGINEERS' feelings with their MEAN TALK and COMPLAINTS.
     
  19. wg8170

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    Before anybody thinks that I am some kind of DTV apologist, take note that I have my share of complaints with the box as well. For instance, we are trying to watch Lost time-shifted right now. Unfortunately we are have a torrential thunderstorm. The "Searching for signal" box is completely blocking Jin's english subtitles. :(
    Also have issues with ShowtimeHD and UniversalHD. At least I'm not paying for ShoHD yet. Just trying not to over-react.

    -wg
     
  20. RMSko

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    Agreed. It's ridiculous that this message appears on a recorded show. I can undersand it with a live show since there is nothing to watch, but for a recorded show, you should be able to disable it. BTW - another fantastic episode of Lost.
     
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