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Sources: NFL, DirecTV Negotiating Renewal, With Talks Still In Early Stages

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Athlon646464, Jul 31, 2013.

  1. Aug 2, 2013 #61 of 100
    dcowboy7

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    No it doesnt cause cause:
    - even during that block it isnt just scoring plays they will show teams that are driving.
    - around 2:30 alot of games go to halftime & there may be only 2 games going.
    - after 3:00 blowouts & less meaningful games get less coverage so they focus more on close/more meaningful game so for example they will pass on a blowout on the 10 yard line to show a close game on the 30 yardline.

    & as ive mentioned im not talking about people that say they just dont like the format thats their preference....im talking about people that say its just scoring plays cause that is blatantly wrong.
     
  2. Aug 2, 2013 #62 of 100
    Bambler

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    I hope the NFL offers it like any other channel to any provider in the future.

    Remember, DirecTV pays a "premium" for exclusivity, which to me means that DirecTV paid more to keep it out of reach of other providers, otherwise why would that statement--which I've seen been used in articles mentioning the situation--been made.

    If that is indeed the case, one can make the supposition that the NFL was prepared to offer it initially to more providers, but DirecTV countered and paid a "premium" to keep it off the shelf, so to speak, assuming that statement is accurate.

    Whether this changes in the future is anybody's guess, but here's to hoping.
     
  3. Aug 2, 2013 #63 of 100
    dcowboy7

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    What ? in what week(s) could ST have 16 games ?
     
  4. Aug 2, 2013 #64 of 100
    renbutler

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    Sorry, 15 games in Week 17. 16 games are originally scheduled as FOX/CBS, but one gets moved to NBC. But, yes, 15 games are ultimately on ST.
     
  5. Aug 2, 2013 #65 of 100
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    Fair enough.
     
  6. Aug 2, 2013 #66 of 100
    joshjr

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    There is just no way for it to work being on all providers. The only reason the other sports work in exclusive packages that are offered by all providers is that their games are not always aired on local broadcast stations. Usually its RSN's and that is a lot different. I just read yesterday that the local affiliate does not get credit for a viewer that watches their channel on Sunday Ticket. If Sunday Ticket was offered by all providers, how many viewers do you think each market would lose each Sunday due to the viewers watching a different game? That would result in lost ad revenue for the local broadcasters which would in turn make them not want to pay the NFL as much money for their games if they are going to make it easier for everyone to watch a different game. I do not see this as a win win for the customer. If the local broadcaster is not able to get the NFL to lower their price and they lose ad revenue, who do you think they are going to go after to get that money back?
     
  7. Aug 2, 2013 #67 of 100
    Bambler

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    It's kind of a moot point as local affiliates won't get credit for people living 1,000 miles away watching their game in any case, as those games wouldn't even be shown in the first place considering the blackout and region rules. Whether that person watches an out of market game or not is immaterial to that local affiliate in either case.

    The NFL is probably the last good bastion of live TV. In fact most sporting events are.

    I doubt CBS or Fox would walk away from the NFL no matter what happens with Sunday Ticket. It's already available to any number of 20 million viewers nationwide (or however many subscribers DirecTV has) and that hasn't deterred prices from going up. The NFL knows they are in a position of power when it comes to negotiating.

    You honestly believe NBC, CBS or Fox would balk at carrying the NFL if Sunday Ticket's penetration were to increase? How is that any different than if DirecTV all of a sudden doubled in viewership? I doubt any language was written into the contract stipulating that DiercTV can't expand. Regardless of whether that is realistic or not, that probability exists.
     
  8. Aug 2, 2013 #68 of 100
    joshjr

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    If you had cable and had Sunday Ticket, what are the odds that you would watch the local game on Sunday with all those choices? There is no way the viewer numbers would not decline. That being said, you think a local broadcaster is going to lose viewers and ad revenue and not want it to be made up by the cable and satellite companies? That would translate into you paying more if nothing else. Who wins in this scenario? Yes the customers have access to all games but it would not drive the price down by any means.
     
  9. Aug 2, 2013 #69 of 100
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    Who cares about the local affiliates? They can pound sand for all I care. It's mind boggling how much power they are still given. Let every provider have it so people will start to leave DirecTV because they don't have the Pac 12 Network.
     
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  10. Aug 2, 2013 #70 of 100
    Joe Tylman

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    This is very reminiscent of the VS dispute statements. Even if the NFL is no longer exclusive the PAC 12 channel wouldn't be a catalyst for enough subscribers to just leave. Every year the ones that must have the channel leave and it just reduces the "demand" of that channel to be carried. At some point a carrier doesn't have much incentive to carry the channel unless it's on their terms.

    What other companies have the bandwidth to carry all of the games in HD? Even if was no longer exclusive other providers would have to do a watered down version like they do with MLB EI. Most people who are passionate about the NFL wouldn't take that. People who have never had it may subscribe to those packages that are already with other providers but I don't think any provider at the moment, except maybe DISH with PT channels, has the ability to carry the same product that is out now.
     
  11. Aug 2, 2013 #71 of 100
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    I presume you've left, and if that's correct, why are you carrying on here?
     
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    I'm fairly certain he still is a DirecTV sub. I'm still puzzled as to why he hasn't switched to Dish since they carry the PAC-12 Network and that's all he cares about. If I'm wrong and he has switched I don't know why he continues to post in the DirecTV forums because it seems to make him very angry and should avoid listing here.
     
  13. Aug 2, 2013 #73 of 100
    FenixTX

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    Because CBS and Fox pay boat loads of money to air the NFL and they want as many people possible watching their local affiliates for ad dollars. May I ask how old you are?
     
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    During my earlier annual ST phone call with a Retentions Rep, we talked about this and he mentioned that this is indeed the NFL's position (not in favor of opening up ST for mass provider distribution).

    I mentioned that I would be watching the forum for future info about the ST contract situation. He was interested in this forum so I gave him the link.

    If the NFL's position remains the same, I'm guessing that we'll see a continuance of the NFL & DTV's partnership with another contract deal within a year.
     
  15. Aug 2, 2013 #75 of 100
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    I presume you've left, and if that's correct, why are you carrying on here?


    He is still a directv sub as his many posts on Extra Innings show. Dish doesn't have EI.
     
  16. Aug 2, 2013 #76 of 100
    Bambler

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    Is there some rule you have to have a current subscription to comment? Does it bother you that much he has an opinion?
     
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    Laxguy

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    No rule, not a bother. I just asked an obvious question.
     
  18. Aug 2, 2013 #78 of 100
    Bambler

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    You should edit your posts then.
     
  19. Aug 2, 2013 #79 of 100
    FenixTX

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    No rule but post after post after post of him wanting people to ditch DirecTV and switch to a provider that has Pac-12 Network and yet he hasn't switched is a little off. If you want the network that much and complain about it as much as he does that DirecTV doesn't carry it shouldn't be heed his own advise and switch. It's just a little confusing.
     
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  20. Aug 3, 2013 #80 of 100
    joshjr

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    He just appears to only care about one thing, himself and his wants. Its a little frustrating but he is entitled to have his opinion. In the meantime, others here in the real world will try to give a better assessment that is benifitial for everyone.
     
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