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Steve Jobs passed away!

Discussion in 'Tech Talk - Gadgets, Gizmos and Technology' started by Herdfan, Oct 5, 2011.

  1. antzona

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    My life has certainly benefited from his life's work. I was genuinely sad to hear of his death. Of course, I heard on my iPhone, when my sister called to break the news.

    While he wasn't necessarily the brains behind all Apple's products in a technical sense, he was certainly the driving force behind the business side of things, and he pushed people to think and create to levels they wouldn't normally achieve.

    I am very glad that Jonathan Ive is still with Apple and will continue to push the company as far as design is concerned. I think Tim Cook will do a great job as well, but it is tough to fill the shoes of someone who could be called the greatest CEO of the last fifty years, if not ever...
     
  2. dpeters11

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    We'll see the influence of Jobs in products for several years at least. They are already working on the next iPhone, the next MacBook, maybe the next big thing.
     
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  5. Nick

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    What Makes Apple Unique

    One-time Apple insider Guy Kawasaki shares the principles he learned from Steve Jobs that made the company's demanding corporate environment unique.
    http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20117575-37/what-i-learned-from-steve-jobs/?tag=mncol
     
  6. hdtvfan0001

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    Like FluffyBear....I only know of one individual that met Steve Jobs in person...and his report years later (shared in a dinner conversation with me) was anything less than glowing. I have no clue about the "real" Steve Jobs in terms of the trail of personal encounters he left behind - I do respect him for his visionary abilities and sales/marketing drive.

    Then again, I'll always remember the famous saying from Paul Harvey (the nationally-syndicated radio) broadcasts - his tag line:

    "...and now...for the rest of the story..."

    http://www.montrealgazette.com/technology/steve-jobs/Rock+star+Jobs+dark+side/5521295/story.html

    Like almost any person...there are multiple perspectives in a legacy.
     
  7. Nick

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    I never met Thomas Jeffferson either but that hasn't kept me from admiring him and his life. I think you missed the entire point of my post.
     
  8. hdtvfan0001

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    Not really...just adding info that depicts there are 2 sides to ever coin.

    (By the way...TJ had far more sides to him than the history books generally write about too...but those don't diminish his contributions) ;)
     
  9. phrelin

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    Steve Jobs was a guy whose business accomplishments within the context of 21st Century America I admire.

    But in most ways he was just a guy ... imperfect like the rest of us, dragging around "personal baggage" and trapped in the economic structures of his time. For instance, Jefferson had his slaves, Jobs had the Chinese. Both had an illegitimate child. My guess is both struggled with mixed feelings about it all. None of that changes their positive accomplishments which I will continue to admire them for.
     
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    Please let me be the first to agree with that.
     
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    Discovery has a program Sunday at 8pm about Jobs - iGenius
     
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    What's more interesting than refusing conventional treatment, is that he then went totally to the other extreme and had his DNA sequenced.
     
  15. Lord Vader

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    Religious reasons might be OK (but isn't there a saying, "God helps those who helps themselves"?), but if one is against today's medicine being able to help, maybe even cure, and instead opts for one of these ridiculous pseudo-holistic routes, well, then that's just a stupid and suicidal route to take, especially if one chooses this for no logical reason.

    Jobs stated in his biography that he regretted his original choice. Perhaps he should have thought about this before making such choice. Hopefully anyone else in similar shoes will realize Jobs's mistake and not make the same one.

    So sad, really. He died when he shouldn't have, and it sounds like this was avoidable.
     
  16. Stewart Vernon

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    To be fair...

    Aspirin originally comes from tree bark... so at one time the accepted treatment of prescribing aspirin would have instead been "go chew on that tree bark"...

    In other words...

    Today's homeopathic medicine might be tomorrow's science IF it actually works.
     
  17. Lord Vader

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    Not really, because at that time, no one knew that.

    He made a stupid choice, one that was his right, but it was a choice that cost him his life. He paid the ultimate price for stupidity.
     
  18. phrelin

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    Steve Jobs was a guy whose business accomplishments within the context of 21st Century America I admire.

    But in most ways he was just a guy ... imperfect like the rest of us, dragging around "personal baggage" and ... oh, I'm sorry, I posted this before.;)
     
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    Excellent Steve Jobs cover story in latest issue of Rolling Stone. Its written by someone who's known him for ages.
     
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    Has it been said that if he'd had the surgery earlier that he definitely would have lived? That he would have had a significantly greater chance of being cured? Because even if you do everything right & catch it early & get all of the best treatment, it doesn't mean that the cancer is ultimately survivable. And dinging him for the choice that he made, even if he himself said he regretted it, is not our place nor do we know that if he had not made that choice that he would have lived. Modern medicine can't cure everything no matter how hard it tries. Just ask my stepfather. Oh wait, you can't, he died 6 months ago even though he had the surgery as soon as the cancer was caught.
     

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