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Supersized New THR22 DirecTiVos On The Way From WeaKnees

Discussion in 'DIRECTV DVR with TiVo Discussion' started by sbiller1, Dec 13, 2011.

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  1. WB3FFV

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    Of course that begs the question, has anyone ever had anything happen for replacing the HD. I mean is there some formal listed penalty or something?

    I have been paying DTV since 98, and though I have not modded any of my DVR's with a larger drive since the early TiVo days, I doubt they are going to give up the 100+ a month subscription because the box ended up with a larger drive.

    Anyway I am not saying anyone should or shouldn't do a drive upgrade, but just curious if anyone has ever ended up in a battle with DTV over it...
     
  2. Shades228

    Shades228 DaBears

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    If they enforce the tampering statute they charge you the cost of the unit. Having a larger HD in a unit received to them is the same as not having a HD in it because they have to replace it. People who have returned modified units have been charged before. It's not something you see a lot of complaining about because most people don't modify them.
     
  3. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Haven't seen any complain about such case here, the forums are the place where most of technically savvy ppl gathering and discussing the mods.
    If you not making it by yourself, please provide links to real facts.
     
  4. RobertE

    RobertE New Member

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    Not everything is publicly linkable.
     
  5. TBlazer07

    TBlazer07 Grumpy Grampy

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    Agreed. Never has one person reported that as happening here and this is where people would most likely be modding their receivers and be the ones that were charged. Now I'm waiting for the first "I got charged for modifying my HR thread" to suddenly pop up from a <cough> new member. :)

    You'd think Weaknees would have been sued or at least stopped by now for modifying leased equipment. It seems that maybe unless you destroy it in the process they are looking the other way.

    Just to head of the next 104 "it's against the TOS" messages that always follow these types of comments I will do it for you:

    YOU ARE NOT PERMITTED UNDER THE TOS TO MODIFY YOUR LEASED EQUIPMENT AS IT BELONGS TO DIRECTV. THIS IS UNDER PENALTY OF DEATH OR DISMEMBERMENT OR A $600 CHARGE!

    You certainly don't want to be dismembered as I know I couldn't do without it.
     
  6. Shades228

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    How many people have come here and complained that they were turned off or fined for "moving" or had a civil action happen against them for account stacking or any other fraudulent issue?

    Just because people don't post things doesn't mean it doesn't happen. So you can choose to believe or not believe but either way I'd put the tinfoil hat away if you think someone would create a new account just to post something to reinforce something. I'm pretty sure the mods see all of the IP Addresses anyways so if someone did it would be pretty obvious.
     
  7. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Doesn't matter.

    Have no factual base - nothing to discuss. Period.
     
  8. Mike Bertelson

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    We have had a couple of threads asking if anyone has or knows someone who has been charged the fee for replacing the hard drive. So far no one has.

    However, I'm not sure that fee would apply in the case of a Weeknees modified DVR. I'm not sure the subscriber can be held responsible for installing a larger hard drive in a DVR that they purchased from an online retailer with the drive already in it.

    It doesn't seem likely DIRECTV has a problem with WeaKnees upgraded, leased DVRs. If they did I'd bet they would have tried to shut down that part of WeaKnees business long ago.

    Personally, I don't think it's worth my money but if someone else decides to get one I'm guessing they won't have any problems. At least that's what makes sense to me.

    Mike
     
  9. TBlazer07

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    Please ..... "account stacking or any other fraudulent issue(s)" is a completely different situation. Bottom line is, while it is "against their rules" they quite obviously look the other way.
    Correct, I choose to believe it doesn't happen.

    Geez man, that's why I put the ":)" after that comment however those kinds of things DO happen on the internet. And finally there is nothing wrong with a tin hat. It 100% stops all the radio broadcasts that I can hear coming out of my fillings every evening from outer space.

    You'd think you work for DirecTV or something. Oh wait, you do!
     
  10. TBlazer07

    TBlazer07 Grumpy Grampy

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    Why not simply state the obvious: "it's not allowed as per the TOS but they seem look the other way. Do it at your own risk."

    Besides, it would be so hard to prove because over the years I have received "refurbs" with broken, unstuck, or even no warranty seals and there is no way they could blame the user for opening the box because they couldn't prove they actually did it (just like in the case of Weaknees).
     
  11. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    His pedaling the issue in many non-related discussions,it's telling me he is affiliate with Signal Integrity Dept or those contracted 'pinkertons'. Perhaps he is the 'bounty hunter' ?
     
  12. Mike Bertelson

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    I don’t think anyone can say what happens when the receiver comes in. You or I will only know what comes out as a referb and not what initial inspections are done prior to the referb. So, no it’s not obvious at all.

    My point in the sentence that you quoted is that one can easily prove they didn’t modify/tamper with a DVR that was purchased (for lease) from WeaKnees. Therefore I believe it’s a non-issue to return a WeaKnees modified receiver.

    Mike
     
  13. Shades228

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    I understand they're different situations however the point remains the same. Who would go to a forum like this one which is not a place that supports people doing things against TOS and make a post saying they got fined. If someone did open a thread like they they would just get replied with nothing but "Why are you surprised it's in the ToS" like most other posts when people come here and complain about something that is clearly identified.

    Now as to how often it happens the only people that would know would be DIRECTV, but I doubt it happens often due to the fact that modifying receivers is such a small sample even on this board where it would be more common.

    I have read complaints where this has happened at other sites before but they were sites that were setup for hacking and other things where it's encouraged to do things against terms of service and not discouraged like it is here.

    So if someone posts that something never happens when it does happen I'll post what I know. People will do whatever they want however if someone comes here to find out information they should be given the correct information so they can make the best choice to them.

    As far as modified HD's DIRECTV has to replace them if it's not one of the models that is approved for that receiver. So if you sent a receiver back with a 2GB drive or no HD it has the same financial impact to the company. It's not like they're going to resell the drive they're going to send it to the recycler.
     
  14. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Direct question - are you a 'cop' ?
    I mean affiliating with Signal Integrity Dept DTV/subsidiaries ?
    Or a hacker ?
     
  15. Shades228

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    Nope, and most of the people I have known that are in departments like that, for any company, will never be an "active" person on places like this when it's within their field. With the resources available to those departments they don't need "internet cops" as they can get what they need from the accounts anyways that are more reliable.
     
  16. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    They are do more that you say here; they do monitoring such boards, do sting operations. Well known fact ... And no one disclosing such affiliations, it's revealing in a court usually. Read that case NDS vs Dish (Tarnovsky). Anyway, your pedaling/persistence some such issues is not usual and perhaps just a little compromised you already.
     
  17. Shades228

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    I could get into the Tanovsky case if you want but it's not really relevant to this thread and has nothing to do with being potentially charged for modifying a receiver. As for whatever you think my job is more power to you.

    So with all that said if you want to continue this we can start a new thread somewhere or goto PM however on this topic:
    :backtotop
     
  18. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    We done.
     
  19. Stuart Sweet

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    I agree with Mr. Smith. Asked and answered, I'm closing this thread.
     
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