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Swanni Predicts DTV Wireless HD DVR For 2011

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by CraigerCSM, Dec 31, 2010.

  1. Dec 31, 2010 #61 of 109
    logical1

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    When can we expect some FESTIVUS in 2011?
     
  2. Dec 31, 2010 #62 of 109
    matt

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    I never understood why some people can't get past that equipment needs cables to connect them together. "Do all those wires have to be there? What is that thing?! Look at all those wires going to it! Do you really need all that?" "That's the power strip."
     
  3. Dec 31, 2010 #63 of 109
    CraigerCSM

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    I understand how the power inserter works now thanks for all the info. However I still don't get why DTV still calls it SWIM when their are two wires attached to the power inserter? Could DTV ever make it so they never needed a power inserter?
     
  4. Dec 31, 2010 #64 of 109
    harsh

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    The problem with DECA is that many routers are located in an office and if the office is cabled, the cable is being used for a DOCSIS modem. If it isn't cabled, DECA doesn't make a lot of sense.

    For the time being (and probably well into the future), wireless is sufficient to keep up with the data rates and DIRECTV is sending at.
     
  5. Dec 31, 2010 #65 of 109
    CraigerCSM

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    For me its cable clutter. I like things simple. Where you would just have one incoming wire, one HDMI wire and one AC cord. I even wish DTV could get rid of needing a phone cord for DirecTV Cinema.
     
  6. Dec 31, 2010 #66 of 109
    carillon

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    My Sharp handles 1080p/24 but I haven't tried it out as of yet. I've only had D* for less than a week but I'm looking forward to watching a 1080p movie from D* to see how it looks.
     
  7. Dec 31, 2010 #67 of 109
    RobertE

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    Wow. :eek2:
     
  8. Dec 31, 2010 #68 of 109
    CraigerCSM

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    I think people in here said its close to BluRay but not true 1080p could be wrong on that.
     
  9. Dec 31, 2010 #69 of 109
    Earl Bonovich

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    You don't need the phone line once you have DECA or network connection setup
     
  10. Dec 31, 2010 #70 of 109
    CraigerCSM

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    Then with Deca their are more wires than just a one phone cord. :D

    Just curious how does SWIM use existing coax in the house does DTV disconnect one end of the incoming cable wire that goes to the wall plate and leaves it hanging and then hooks up the DTV line to the cable wall plate?
     
  11. Dec 31, 2010 #71 of 109
    Earl Bonovich

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    It still is. One cable into the DVR. The power inserted has one cable in, one cable out.
    Which is less then two it was before for DVRs

    What you are proposing to put the inserted inside doesn't make sense on the large scale. Since most people have more then one system, you would have multiple "inserters" when you only need one.
    And if the inserter fails, you need to replace a relatively inexpensive inserter, instead on the full STB.
     
  12. Dec 31, 2010 #72 of 109
    CraigerCSM

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    I guess I am confused on where the power inserter is installed? I am thinking it needs to be installed where their is an ac outlet next to the HD DVR. If so their are still two wires coming out of the power inserter one coming from the dish or multiswitch into the power inserter and then from the power inserter into the the HD DVR. That isn't one cable its two.
     
  13. Dec 31, 2010 #73 of 109
    Doug Brott

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    OK .. you really don't get it.

    You have a coax wire for the sat signal. It comes from the dish. Don't even think about the power inserter. Pretend that it's not there for a second. You have JUST the one coax line from the dish into your HR24. Networking uses that SAME wire. There is no second coax going to some other wall plate. It's the same exact wire. There is just ONE coax wire that handles the Sat connect *** AND *** the network connection.
     
  14. Dec 31, 2010 #74 of 109
    Doug Brott

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    DISH --> Power Inserter --> HR24


    Notice 2 connections on power inserter. One goes to the DISH .. the other goes to the HR24.
     
  15. Dec 31, 2010 #75 of 109
    Earl Bonovich

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    every house is different.
    All depends on how the wiring is done in the walls. If the installer can access the other end of the wall plate line (which is noting more then a union between two cables mounted into plastic). Then they can use that wire.

    And no, a DECA solution with Hx24 systems, would the same number of wires or less, then one using phone lines.
    With phone lines you need one at each box. With DECA you just need one connection on you SWiM wiring, to connect all you u it's to the network (which can to the network call as well as download the DoD content)

    Single system installs are very much NOT the standard install, so yes you may be able to reduce your wiring. Put once you add abscond system SWiM and DECA becomes the easiest, and least number of wires to install.
     
  16. Dec 31, 2010 #76 of 109
    CraigerCSM

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    Is the power inserter installed next to the dish on the outside or inside next to the HR24? I also wonder if the power inserter is reliable and if it goes down the whole system goes down?
     
  17. Dec 31, 2010 #77 of 109
    Earl Bonovich

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    The inserter needs to installed indoors, it can be next to your DVR or in the basement. Anywhere really, so long as you have power to it.

    It is as reliable as any other piece of electronics. I still have the same inserter for nearly 4 years now.
    If it goes out, yes the system would go down. Same is true if the LNB goes down, dish, or your STB
     
  18. Dec 31, 2010 #78 of 109
    CraigerCSM

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    I think I get it now. One wire goes from the dish to the mutliswitch (if one is needed) then the wire goes to the power inserter and out from the power inserter into the HR24. If I got it right than technically that is still two wires. I guess I am also thinking if you keep splitting the wire that way it will loose PQ.
     
  19. Dec 31, 2010 #79 of 109
    RobertE

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    3 wires if you want to count the power cord from the PI. Oh my.

    But seriously? :confused:
     
  20. Dec 31, 2010 #80 of 109
    Earl Bonovich

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    This is a digital connection. Not analog, the inserter won't degrade the PQ
     

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