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swim and new box question

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by HiDefGator, Sep 21, 2013.

  1. HiDefGator

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    I currently have a swim 16 mounted on the side of my house.
    2 wires run inside to a closet where they split and feed 11 tuners ( 3 regular DVR's and a 5 tuner DVR )
    There is a powered dongle in the same closet that connects the internet to them all for whole home.

    I would like to add a new HD box in a nearby garage that can do whole home. Doesn't need DVR capability itself. The garage is only 40' from the swim mounted on side of house. The garage has wired internet coming from the house already if that helps.

    1. Can a new wire be added to the SWIM to provide 2 tuners to the garage?
    2. Will the new garage box magically get the internet over that wire for whole home?
    3. Which client box should I ask for?

    thanks I appreciate any help provided.

    mike
     
  2. HoTat2

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    1) Yes, but if its a non-DVR HD receiver you are interested in installing in the garage, it only requires 1 tuner.

    2) Yes, and there is really no "magic" behind it. The MoCA network signal travels over the same coax as the satellite signal and the garage receiver will be able to access the internet through the same CCK (or "dongle" as you call it) in the wiring closet as all the other receivers comprising the "DECA cloud."

    3) Any of the set top box HD receivers, H21, H23, H24 or H25 will suffice for this. Just remember that the older H21 and H23 receivers require external receiver DECAs attached to them of course.
     
  3. Bill Broderick

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    If you're looking to run a cable from the SWM-16 location outside of the house to the garage, you would just need to add a 2 way green label splitter to in between SWM2 on the the SWM-16 and the one of the cables going into the house. Then a coax cable can be run from the second output of the splitter to the garage.
     
  4. Supramom2000

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    You could get a client instead of an H box. Then you have complete control of the Genie as if you were in front of it. It adds no tuners.
     
  5. HiDefGator

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    Can you elaborate on the difference between the client and the H? Do they both have same monthly fee? Can the client see content on other dvr's or just the genie?
     
  6. Supramom2000

    Supramom2000 In Loving Memory of Onyx-2/23/09

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    Any new "box" still costs $6 per month. The client does not use it's own tuner. It uses a tuner from the Genie's 5 available ones. If you have whole home set up on your system, then the client can see all the networked DVR's. You basically view it as a slave of the Genie. Any actions you make on the client are physically done on the Genie. Thus you can set series links from there, you can delete recordings, anything you would do in front of a regular DVR. The H's can do whole home, but they cannot set up series links or delete programs or series links, etc. I believe there are also more limitations on the H's that I am not familiar with, as I don't have any.
     
  7. HoTat2

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    The RVU clients such as the Genie Minis are essentially extensions of the UI of the main Genie server and borrows from it's satellite tuners and live buffer to operate.

    It has the same monthly fee as another receiver and can see and stream recorded shows from other DVRs on the network besides the Genie.
     
  8. carl6

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    The client does not have it's own tuner, it uses a tuner from the Genie. The H2x has it's own tuner. The client is for all practical purposes the same as operating the Genie. Yes it can participate in whole-home with other units.
     
  9. peds48

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    Just to clarify that the SWM output here does not matter, what matter is that each SWM output must not have more than 8 tuners.
     
  10. Bill Broderick

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    I recommended SWM2 because he didn't mention that anything was connected to the power input of the SWM16 and also said that only 2 wires run from the SWM-16 into the house. So, I assumed that the Power Inserter is connected to SWM1,

    Since with his Genie and 3 DVR's, it's not possible for him to use exactly 8 tuners on either side of the SWM-16 (regardless of what combination is connected to each side), rather than having him be concerned about having to connect the existing cable to the power passing side of the 2 way splitter and the new coax to the other side, I figured that it would be easier to just tell him to use SWM2, so he wouldn't need to be concerned with the Power Inserter.
     
  11. HiDefGator

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    Huge Thanks to everyone here for your advice. Putting a splitter next to the swim 16 and going with a client instead of a full receiver were both great ideas. Directv hasn't done anything for me lately so I might try to get them to do the install work.
     

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