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Switching from unsupported mode to DECA

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Connected Home' started by heisman6183, Aug 22, 2013.

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  1. heisman6183

    heisman6183 AllStar

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    I currently have an HR24 and HR21 networked in unsupported mode but have been having performance issues related to watching recordings from the other DVR (the DVRs are connected to different routers, and the routers connect to each other wirelessly). I want to know the easiest/cheapest way to network my DVRs, be able to watch on demand on both DVRs, and possible add a GenieGo to the mix. I was thinking I can get two DECA II dongles and that would work, but reading about the CCK and Wireless CCK makes me think I need either one of those in order to get on demand on both DVRs. Can anyone help?
     
  2. peds48

    peds48 DIRECTV A-Team DBSTalk Club

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    First you need SWM, a SWM LNB would do the trick for you. then you need a receiver DECA (for the HR21) and a BroadBand DECA adapter. Although both are the same thing, the latter comes with a power supply since there is no receiver to power it. you can either get a 2 way and use one of the ethernet cables that already by the receivers (preferably the one that goes to the main router) and connect the DECA BB there or alternatively you can run a coax from your router/gateway location to the main SWM splitter and connect the DECA BB there. The HR24 does no need DECA as it has it built in
     
  3. dpeters11

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    Keep in mind, it will still technically be "unsupported" if you do it yourself. However, in day to day operation moving to DECA and getting it out of the wireless situation etc, you will see a great improvement. You can always come to us for most technical issues. Where it really might come into play is if you ever upgrade to a Genie etc, if you get it through DirecTV they may insist on a tech install because their system doesn't see you as being compatible.

    Not necessarily a reason to not do it yourself, just something to make sure you're aware of.
     
  4. jimmie57

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    Your HR24 has the DECA built in. Using it the way you have it has the DECA disabled. If / when you switch over the HR24 will need to be restarted after the Ethernet cable is removed from the back of it to reactivate DECA.
     
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    Or to re-enable the HR24's internal DECA you need to disconnect the ethernet cable from it and rerun the satellite setup.

    EDIT: Post adjusted after correction from peds48.
     
  6. peds48

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    Both methods work to activate the DECA
     
  7. HoTat2

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    OK thanks;

    In the past when the H/HR24 receivers were the hot item of discussion here on the forum, VOS always spoke of the second method, so as to a respected mentor I only latched on to that one. :)
     
  8. CCarncross

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    Call Directv, I think they do it for about $49...that would really seem to be the cheapest route because Directv will upgrade all your gear to make it work.
     
  9. WestDC

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    If you have 4 leads already coming down from your dish - you can do it yourself should not want to schedule a service / upgrade request

    Turn off all receivers / then Unplug a/c Cord

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/DIRECTV-BROADBAND-DECA-KIT-/230732980165?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b8c1dfc5

    as noted you would only need on deca attached to your HR21 so that leaves you a spare.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/DIRECTV-BROADBAND-DECA-KIT-/230732980165?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b8c1dfc5

    Add this to your existing down RG6 leads connect one wire to SAT 1 of each receiver power everything up one receiver at a time and your done.
     
  10. heisman6183

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    Thank you for all the advice. I purchased two broadband DECAs (the black dongles) with the power supply for $18 total. I have no interest in having DirecTV coming out to install anything. Not that they don't know what they're doing (of course, some techs are better/worse than others) but I don't want to pay for the service/equipment, and frankly I enjoy the tinkering. Hopefully, if I do get a GenieGo they'll let me self install. I'll make sure to restart the HR24 and go through the sat setup again. Also, I already have a SWM LNB so no issues there.
     
  11. HoTat2

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    The GenieGo can be drop shipped for self-install.
     
  12. peds48

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    and can also be installed by a tech if the customer so chooses
     
  13. HoTat2

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    True;

    I should have said "can be."

    Have edited my post.
     
  14. heisman6183

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    The DirecTV website says GenieGo needs to be connected to the same wireless network as your HD DVR. Will it work if it's connected to the same wired (no wireless functionality) router as the DECA, or does the GenieGo have to be connected to a wireless router?
     
  15. peds48

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    Yes. but then now days all (most) routers have wireless built in. perhaps you have a switch?
     
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    Nope, it's an older trendnet router. Still works fine, but no wireless. I noticed I can't really find a wired router any more online, just switches.
     
  17. peds48

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    that explains it
     
  18. dennisj00

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    It's been a couple of years but I converted a couple of friends systems to SWiM and DECAs and called the nice CSRs and got them switched to 'supported'.

    As of the last week of July, I couldn't get a Genie dropped shipped for 2 different accounts. They insisted on a $19 charge for a CCK even though the installer would only do wifi to the Genie.
     
  19. spidey

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    geniego only connects to router via Ethernet as long as your DECA has the connector to the router as well ur ok.
     
  20. Laxguy

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    Which begs the question: On what device(s) are you going to watch your GenieGo transcodes? It's pretty much designed for wireless devices, though an ethernetted laptop or desktop would work.
     

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