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SWM & SWMline general discussion

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by Doug Brott, Jul 30, 2008.

  1. Dec 23, 2008 #461 of 1305
    veryoldschool

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    The DVR uses slightly different circuitry to go to SWM, from non SWM, so while "the tuner" may be fine, the "box" may have problems feeding the tuner.
     
  2. Dec 23, 2008 #462 of 1305
    kanderna

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    Yeah, I realized that was a stupid question as I shut down my PC. Anyway, my replacement didn't arrive today like they said. Looks like Sat. So I'll wait until Sunday. Should be the true test on machine vs. wiring.
     
  3. Dec 25, 2008 #463 of 1305
    randyk47

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    Got my SWM-8 all installed thanks largely to the tips and ideas I got from this thread. The equipment piece was relatively simple and probably didn't take more than 15 minutes. Getting my three receivers reset took the longest but I did them one at a time to make sure I didn't have any problems. First two, an HR20 and H20, came up without a problem. I had a little trouble with the second HR20 but I'd forgotten it was set to single tuner so I went through a couple of extra refreshes before I discovered my mistake. Once I set it to dual tuner it came back on line like a charm with both tuners up and running. This was the unit that caused me to go to SWM in the first place as I had only one cable to that location and couldn't get another run to bring the second tuner on line. All is great now. Thanks again to this site and good folks who share their knowledge and experience. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
     
  4. Dec 26, 2008 #464 of 1305
    mridan

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    Guys it's been a long time since I last hooked up my SWM 8, I have one question.I currently have two HR20's connected to my SWM 8,and would like to add another HR dvr.I can use a regular splitter and come off of SWM2 or split off of PI?Is this correct?Thanks for any and all help.
     
  5. Dec 26, 2008 #465 of 1305
    LameLefty

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    So long as you use a power-passing splitter good for 2 - 2150 mhz you'll be fine. Most of the splitters at places like Lowes and Home Depot are only officially rated down to 5 mhz but they should still work. I'm using some Skywalker splitters rated in that range that I got online at SolidSignal.com and they work great.
     
  6. Dec 26, 2008 #466 of 1305
    mridan

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    Thanks for the info LameLefty,I was wondering but I think the answer is no.You can't connect an HR 20 to one of the Legacy ports,are those ports for non hd receivers?
     
  7. Dec 26, 2008 #467 of 1305
    kanderna

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    Correct. You MIGHT be able to hook it up (not sure on that one), but it would certainly not give you dual tuner capability and you wouldn't have MPEG-4 (if I'm correct).
     
  8. Dec 26, 2008 #468 of 1305
    veryoldschool

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    It's not MPEG-4, but the Ka-lo SATs. The Legacy ports work like the WB68 ports do BUT don't pass Ka-lo [250-750 MHz], so all of the "New" HD channels [needing the BBC] don't come in, but if you local HD are Ka-hi [MPEG-4], they will come in.
     
  9. Dec 26, 2008 #469 of 1305
    FYRPLG

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    QUESTION? MAX 8 Tuners for a SWMLINE Dish?


    Do I understand correctly that only 8 tuners max for 1 SWMLINE Dish.

    Even with an 8 port splitter.


    Thanks.

    Need repair after snow storm so I was going to upgrade to reduce the 8 coax runs I now have down to 2 ( 2 -5 lnb dishes.).
     
  10. Dec 26, 2008 #470 of 1305
    veryoldschool

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    Eight SWM capable tuners [4-DVRs] is the max.
    The "8-way" splitter would work [best] for eight non DVRs, or eight single tuner receivers.
     
  11. Dec 26, 2008 #471 of 1305
    FYRPLG

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    Thanks VOS

    Thank you for confirming the 8 tuners max.

    Paul F.
     
  12. Dec 27, 2008 #472 of 1305
    FYRPLG

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    SWM REBOOT

    Will it be needed to reboot swm system if it goes down?
    Power Failure etc.?

    If so need to have Wifes units on regular hookup as she wud not know how the reset order wud be.
     
  13. Dec 27, 2008 #473 of 1305
    bobnielsen

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    When power comes back up after a failure, the SWM will come up immediately, while the receiver boot process takes several minutes, so you shouldn't have any issues. Both my HR20 and SWM are running on a UPS. My HR21 is not. I haven't had any problems either when the HR21 went down by itself or when the UPS ran out of juice and everything lost power.
     
  14. Dec 29, 2008 #474 of 1305
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    I had an extra UPS around the house and used it with the PI. In fact I'm probably going to climb back into the AV closet and put the HR20 in that room on the UPS. Any problem with keeping the PI up and running during a power failure? The other receivers will reset themselves if I lose power but at least one setup, assuming it's not a long outage, will stay up.
     
  15. Dec 29, 2008 #475 of 1305
    bobnielsen

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    There shouldn't be any PI issues doing that. Mine has been hooked up that way for over a year, with probably 5-6 power dropouts (some short, some long).
     
  16. Dec 29, 2008 #476 of 1305
    dave29

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    same here, i prefer it that way. i dont like my electronics losing power(especially the hr2x and swm PI)
     
  17. Dec 29, 2008 #477 of 1305
    br408408

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    Me too, I have all my receivers and my SWM-8 on UPS's. Works great.
     
  18. Dec 30, 2008 #478 of 1305
    kanderna

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    And we have a winner.

    Took one of the other receivers to that location and it performed perfectly.

    Good news: That's easy. Call D* and have them send a replacement.

    Bad news: 10 unwatched movies, other content, and a small momento of a trip to NYC

    Since this receiver works with two direct lines, can I split the line again at the receiver? If so, any disadvantage to doing that?
     
  19. Dec 30, 2008 #479 of 1305
    carl6

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    Not sure what you are wanting to do. If you have a regular (non-SWM) installation with two coax going to the DVR, then you can NOT split either of those. Each tuner must have it's own dedicated coax back to the dish (or multiswitch).

    If you have an SWM installation (dual tuner DVR working okay with only one coax, power inserter someplace in the installation), then you can split the line as needed, providing you do not exceed a grand total of 8 tuners (2 tuners in a DVR, 1 tuner in a non-DVR receiver).
     
  20. Dec 30, 2008 #480 of 1305
    kanderna

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    OK. I was pretty sure it would work, but wasn't sure if there was some technical reason I couldn't split the signal and run both to the same receiver. Thanks.
     

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