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SWM & SWMline general discussion

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by Doug Brott, Jul 30, 2008.

  1. Jun 22, 2009 #741 of 1305
    akhicks

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    if this is in the wrong area im sorry ive been looking but with no luck. i am finishing an mdu apartment complex (mopping up someone elses mess) on one of the buildings there is a swm8 to an 8 way splitter with all d-12's and on two of the d-12's there are lines that scroll through the screen. all ports on the splitter are being used as well as all of the legecy ports. what would cause the lines, can you use the legacy ports with the splitter too and can you use the legacy ports with d-12's
     
  2. Jun 22, 2009 #742 of 1305
    dave29

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    You can use the legacy ports as well as the swm outputs.
    So, that will give you a total of 11 D12's off of one SWM8 unit.

    You aren't using a splitter off of the legacy ports are you?
     
  3. Jun 22, 2009 #743 of 1305
    akhicks

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    i dont believe there are any splitters on the legacy ports at least not at the cable box. so what would cause the lines on the tv and as i said the lines are only on two tv's and all ports are being used (legacy and on the 8 way) could splitters on cable running off of the legacy ports cause the lines
     
  4. Jun 22, 2009 #744 of 1305
    dave29

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    Try switching the "working" legacy port receiver onto a legacy port that is getting the lines and see if it still works, or is getting the lines.

    If it works, then there is something wrong with the cable on the 2 that are getting lines. Whether it is a bad cable or a splitter is inline somewhere.
     
  5. Jun 22, 2009 #745 of 1305
    kcroyaljosh

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    I currently have an AT9 dish,
    Zinwell WB68 6x8 multi switch
    HR20-700
    HR21-100
    H20-100
    R10
    D11-500 Humax integrated tv/directv

    What I really want to know is two things. I have experienced some rain fade this year more than normal. I have noticed my signal during storms is now not as good. I had scheduled a tech to come out and install a new dish but when he came it was very cold and said that the AT9 had a better signal than the replacement. I did not believe that and I thought he did not want to install it. (Directv was going to do it for free)

    I just completed some upgrades (last couple of days) my self and added the multi switch. I really want to know is the AT9 dish better than the AU9-SL3. Will my multi switch work with the new AU9? Will my R10 and D11-500 work as well?
     
  6. Jun 22, 2009 #746 of 1305
    akhicks

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    thanks for the help dave ill give it a try. im just happy to know that i can use the legacy ports for the d-12's that will save me a lot of cable and save me from stacking swm8's
     
  7. Jun 22, 2009 #747 of 1305
    bobnielsen

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    I doubt that there is any appreciable difference in performance between a AT9 and a AU9, as the surface areas aren't all that different. However, if there are some problems with your AT-9, a replacement may indeed give better performance (that seems to be the standard procedure for suspected dish problems).

    Since the AT-9 has external connections for 110 and 119, that may be an area where moisture could be an issue (I had problems with those two satellites once when there was wet snow on the assembly).

    Your multiswitch and receivers are compatible with either one.
     
  8. Jun 22, 2009 #748 of 1305
    RobertE

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    You may want to open up a seperate thread. As you question does not concern SWiM hardware at all.
     
  9. Jun 23, 2009 #749 of 1305
    akhicks

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    im sure this has been asked and answered, but here goes can you use the swm8 switch with an 8 way splitter with all 8 ports used and still connect recievers to the legacy ports and what recievers are compatible with the legacy ports
     
  10. Jun 23, 2009 #750 of 1305
    veryoldschool

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    Legacy ports are completely separate from the SWM ports [loading].
     
  11. Jun 23, 2009 #751 of 1305
    carl6

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    Common symptom of ground loop problems (bad or missing ground someplace). Try disconnecting everything at the two problem TV's (not just DirecTV stuff - cable, phone, xbox, anything connected). Then start hooking stuff back up one item at a time until the lines appear. That is likely the source of the ground loop problem.
     
  12. Jun 23, 2009 #752 of 1305
    dettxw

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    Just to be sure, you only get eight tuners using the SWM8. So if you connect four DVRs at two tuners each that is eight tuners with four cables requiring only a four way splitter. You only need an eight way splitter for eight individual receivers.
     
  13. Jul 11, 2009 #753 of 1305
    adrock13

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    can anyone direct me to a wiring diagram for a e4 expander. perhaps an installation vid...
    thanks for info
     
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    adrock13

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    docderwood

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    Have tried to find this w/o luck.

    Am adding another DVR which will put me over the 8 tuner limit with my single SWM-8.

    Currently have 4 lines from dish running into the attic where the SWM-8 is mounted.

    Can I take the 4 lines from the dish and connect them to a multiswitch then connect two SWM's downstream from the mutliswitch?

    thx!
     
  17. Aug 6, 2009 #757 of 1305
    veryoldschool

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    Better yet:
    get four splitters like these: http://www.solidsignal.tv/prod_display.asp?PROD=SP2WAPHL

    Then mount them so each output goes to the same input on each SWM, and you're set.
     
  18. Aug 6, 2009 #758 of 1305
    docderwood

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  19. Aug 6, 2009 #759 of 1305
    carl6

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    Yes, really that simple. But you also need to keep the outputs separate from each other.

    Make sure the splitters you get are wide-frequency and power passing.
     
  20. Aug 17, 2009 #760 of 1305
    lee78221

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    So let let me ask this:

    I have 3 DVRs(and only one of them has one wire coming in).

    I don't want to have to upgrade to SWM or run a second line, would this work without me having to run a second and make my R-22 a dual tuner dvr(And not a single tuner, with a single wire coming in from the dish)?
     

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