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SWM & SWMline general discussion

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by Doug Brott, Jul 30, 2008.

  1. Nov 30, 2009 #821 of 1305
    brockley

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    I am in the same situation except as a totally new customer, no movers connection. Moving into a new house Friday with a similar setup and an install scheduled for Saturday morning. I included a ntoe on the order page about the setup of the house and asked about a SWM setup, as well as a J-mount. Does anyone know if this is possible? I guess I will find out Saturday.
     
  2. Nov 30, 2009 #822 of 1305
    carl6

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    While the general direction is to use SWM for all installs (that have SWM capable equipment), I'm not sure that a movers connection install will get you one. Talk to the installer when he shows up. You might be able to pur$uade him, if SWM isn't on the work order to start with.
     
  3. Nov 30, 2009 #823 of 1305
    barryb

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    I called DirecTV recently about an install with SWM for a friend. They told me they don't do that (in my area at least).
     
  4. Nov 30, 2009 #824 of 1305
    veryoldschool

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    This might be changing early next year.
     
  5. Nov 30, 2009 #825 of 1305
    soloredd

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    Well, an update. Called D* to setup Movers Connection reinstall. While the CS rep was wrapping things up I asked her if I could get a SWM install. She said she would make a note of it but cannot guarantee it (understood). My friend, who lives down the street, had a SWM install the previous day. I felt confident my area would be good with the SWM. D* came out to the new place yesterday and the kid looked at my setup and said something to the effect like they should have let him know about a SWM install. I said I requested it and the rep said she put it in the notes. He went ahead and did the SWM install and also installed a new, additional HDDVR upstairs. So, two HDDVRs running off the SWM.

    Now, the new HDDVR is not getting anything, I get 721 codes even for locals. Not sure what's up but it never worked and the installer left while the software update was downloading. He said "Everything should work when this finishes." I said ok, like an idiot (should have made him wait). I'll have to call D* and get it fixed.

    So, I did get a SWM install with Movers Connection - but whether or not it works is another story :lol:
     
  6. Dec 24, 2009 #826 of 1305
    acurax04

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    Sorry I tried to read a little about setting this up but everything I try doesn't work. If someone could offer some advice OR point me in the right direction to the information I'm sure I have missed elsewhere on this board I would appreciate that.

    I have a Slimline 5LNB dish (AU9) with a HR23 receiver. I've been using 2 coax runs from the dish to the HR23, but I am trying to run just 1 coax to the back of the HR23 (is this possible?) to free up some coax runs for other purposes. I have a SWS4WB-WNC splitter and a power inserter (PI-21), but I must be doing something incorrect.

    Right now I have it setup like this:

    Dish > PI-21 IN: "Power to SWM", OUT: "Signal to IRD">Splitter IN: Red port, OUT: OUT1 (red port) > HR23 (tuner 1).

    I haven't been able to get any satellite signal with this set up. What do I need to put satellite setup on the receiver as? I think I have Dish type as Slimline-5 and Switch Type as SWM right now (it was Multiswitch previously).

    Thanks guys...
     
  7. Dec 24, 2009 #827 of 1305
    rabid_hobbit

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    You are trying to use a swm setup, but you don't actually have swm (single wire multiswitch). To use only a single line, you need to either replace the lnb on your dish with a swm lnb, or you need to buy a swm-8 module to insert between the dish and the reciever. Frankly, I would think it would be less expensive to just run another cable if one is needed.

    http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.as...iswitch-(SL5SWM)&c=DIRECTV Dishes&sku=SL5-SWM

    http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.as...witch-(8-Channel)-(SWM8)&c=Multiswitches&sku=
     
  8. Dec 24, 2009 #828 of 1305
    dsw2112

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    Have you replaced the Legacy LNB with a SWMLnb?
     
  9. Dec 31, 2009 #829 of 1305
    JlieM72

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    was wondering about relocations of receivers within the same home, just swapping boxes-living room hddvr to a bedroom. The HR22 in the living room has the swm adaptor attatched, that adaptor doesn't move, right? If I move this part it would be a sfss issue wouldn't it?
    or could that adaptor also be relocated to a new room?

    I'm thinking because of where the cable from the outside multiswitch runs into the swm adaptor inside, that has to stay where it's at...?
     
  10. Jan 7, 2010 #830 of 1305
    techofnation

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    If you are just swapping recievers u dont need to move the power inserter. If u do move the power inserter u are right it can cause sfss.
     
  11. Jan 14, 2010 #831 of 1305
    jaysprophecy

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    I install DirecTV and have some question and I'm sure i might have answers, They been sending us out to inst. swm expander along w/ legacy 8 way.Without really being qualified,that's OK though . The thing is I'm getting 2-4 different ways to hook them up...now I'm lost Is there somewhere i can go and find a Pictured diagram. Without seeing it drawn in front of me I get confused. signed, plug-n-choose
     
  12. Jan 14, 2010 #832 of 1305
    jaysprophecy

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    And im a little lost on the site here,looking to make it easy for me to post and reply
     
  13. Jan 14, 2010 #833 of 1305
    veryoldschool

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    Here is our first look at the LNB:
    http://hr20.dbstalk.com/Slimline SWM ODU LNB First Look.pdf

    Here is some more:
    http://forums.directv.com/pe/Reposi...96641/SWM - Integrated LNB-ModuleTraining.pdf

    and here is something from Sonora:
    http://www.sonoradesign.com/images/sheet_SWM8.pdf
     
  14. Jan 15, 2010 #834 of 1305
    jmarks2001

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    I am considering going to an SWM solution, but want to be sure I know what I'm doing before I order one. I know there's a lot of information in this thread, but it's kind of overwhelming, so I appreciate anyone knowledgeable that takes the time to respond. Here goes...

    I currently have an HR20 in the living room, and an HR22 in the bedroom. The HR20 has two separate connections running to it. One cable goes through the pre-wired cable box on the side of my house. The other comes directly into the wall directly behind my TV by way of an unsightly black wire running down the back of my house. The HR22 only has one wire going to it, so it's only utilizing one of its tuners. This wire is run through the pre-wired cable box on the side of my house. All dish outputs are running from a Slimline 5 (I think) and have B-Band converters installed inside the house, directly behind the receivers.

    My objectives here are to 1) be able to utilize the second tuner on the HR22 in the bedroom, and 2) get rid of the ugly wire running into my second tuner in the living room. From what I've read, an SWM switch should do the trick. Here's my plan...

    First, I'll remove the sat inputs on the existing multiswitch. Then I'll connect the those lines into the corresponding inputs on the SWM (18v,13v,18v/22khz, etc.). I'll then take the two lines that were running from my existing multi-switch to my pre-wired cable box on the side of my house and connect them to the SWM1 and SWM2 outputs on the SWM module. The old multi-switch shouldn't have anything connected to it at this point. Inside, I'll disconnect the inputs going into the receivers and remove the B-Band converters. I'll connect the line coming from SWM2 output tothe the SAT1 input on the receiver. For the line coming from SWM1 output, I'll connect it to the SWM power converter, run a short line out of the power converter into the SAT1 input on the receiver, then plug the power converter in.

    At this point, I should be up and running with both tuners working on each DVR...right?


    Also, is it not necessary to split the signal to both receiver SAT inputs? Can the receiver detect multiple signals on the one line and split them between the tuners?
     
  15. Jan 15, 2010 #835 of 1305
    dettxw

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    Looks good!
    Make sure that you connect that PI up correctly, and power the SWM before the DVRs.
    Assume that's a SWM8 that you're using.
    Yes, SAT1 is all you need to connect to on the DVRs and you'll get two tuners worth of input.
     
  16. Jan 15, 2010 #836 of 1305
    randyk47

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    Correct, just one line to each receiver. The receiver takes care of splitting the signal to the two tuners.
     
  17. Jan 19, 2010 #837 of 1305
    jmarks2001

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    Thanks for the reply. And yes, I do plan on purchasing a SWM8.

    One more question though. Would it be possible for me to run just one line to my cable box (out of the SWM2 output) and install an SWS splitter into the two lines running into the house? This way, I wouldn't be using the SWM1 output, and therefore wouldn't need a Power Inverter...right?

    Thanks in advance!
     
  18. Jan 19, 2010 #838 of 1305
    dsw2112

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    The PI is a requirement if you are using a SWM8 regardless of what output(s) you are using. The SWM8 is essentially a polarity locker and needs the PI to power itself and your lnb's. FYI the PI can be plugged into either the SWM1 or legacy 3 port.
     
  19. Jan 25, 2010 #839 of 1305
    videojanitor

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    Hello SWM experts!

    I've been trying to get up to speed on all this and believe I have a handle on it. Just want to run this by you to make sure I'm not hosin' ...

    My current setup is a self-installed 5-LNB Slimline. I've got the four runs of RG6 feeding through one small hole in the side of the house from a previous cable TV install. I've got other stuff I want to run through there, but there's no room left and I don't want to enlarge the hole. So, I thought of going to SWM to get myself down to just one RG6 run, instead of four.

    To do this, it seems like I need:

    SL3-SWM LNB (only care about 99/101/103)
    SWS-4 splitter (need to feed three HD DVRs)
    PI-21 power inserter

    That should do it, unless I'm misreading things. Of course I am aware of the other things, such as only needing one cable to the DVRs instead of two, no BBCs needed, and no need for the existing WB68 multiswitch.

    Let me know if I am on the right track, or going off the rails!
     
  20. Jan 25, 2010 #840 of 1305
    veryoldschool

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    Seems OK and just add a termination to the unused port off the splitter.
     

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