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SWM & SWMline general discussion

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by Doug Brott, Jul 30, 2008.

  1. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    There's a good reason for this. "Your locals" come off the 95º SAT which has linear polarization not circular, so not only does the LNB5 dish not point to the right location when pointing to 101, but the LNBs can't pickup the signals if pointed to the 95 SAT. This is kind of a "DUH".
     
  2. texasbrit

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    ...and even if it could 'see" the 95 satellite, none of the channels would come in because the receiver is not authorized for those locals.
     
  3. finaldiet

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    Jumping in with a question. I had a dish replaced with a new SWM one and a new HR24. The dish has a square receiver at the end of the arm and one cone attached to it. Someone said they don't have the dish with the square end. It says SWM and he installed SWM line to receivers. He did all this because my HR20-700 died and it was easier than running new undergrond wiring. He also gave me A HR24-100 as a replacement. I'm curious about the dish. Any info on it?
     
  4. veryoldschool

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    would guess this is what you're taking about:
    http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.as...In-Multiswitch-(SL3SWM)&c=DIRECTV Dishes&sku=
     
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  6. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    your is the non SWiM model.
     
  7. Aug 3, 2010 #1007 of 1305
    Baggabonez

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    I could really use some advice. We just remodeled and moved our media wall from the living room to area that doesn’t currently have a satellite jack; although the house is pre-wired for cable/satellite. I don’t want to wrap the house anymore than it already is. Right now all my TV wires and cords are hidden within the walls. My question is what is the best way to get a jack into this room in the least intrusive way? Will a SWM system help me?

    If a SWM is for me I spent an entire day going back and forth with DirecTV to no avail so I’m on my own. I’m a bit confused as to what equipment I need specifically. I have a guy who claims he is knowledgeable but I’d like a second opinion. I just need a grocery list. Will I need all new stuff or can I attach an aftermarket SWM-8 to my old dish?
    :confused:
     
  8. Aug 3, 2010 #1008 of 1305
    veryoldschool

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    Not knowing everything you have, this still seems like a good option.
    Four coax from the dish to the SWM8, then a single coax out to power the SWM8 and then split it to single coax runs and receivers as needed. You can connect up to 8 tuners to a SWM8, and remember a DVR uses two tuners, but even these are still fed by a single coax.
     
  9. Aug 3, 2010 #1009 of 1305
    kjgarrison

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    If you are asking what I think you are asking, which is about running coax cable in your house to a new wall that doesn't already have coax cable, then the SWM8 will do this one thing for you:

    It will make it so you only need to run ONE wire.

    As to what it takes in your house to get that one wire in the wall where you want it, these installers have a lot of expertise. There are lots of "how to" threads, particularly in the hometheatershack forum.

    The approach can be under a rug, along or behind the baseboards, through the attic, through the basement, or any combination. Sometimes, you either wrap the house as you put it, or make holes in drywall. If you're not a DIY kind of guy, there are people that do this sort of work.

    Good luck.
     
  10. Aug 4, 2010 #1010 of 1305
    Baggabonez

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    Thank you very much for the advice.

    I have an HD oval dish. So . . . I can just hook up the SWM-8 to the old dish. Right?
     
  11. Aug 4, 2010 #1011 of 1305
    veryoldschool

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    Yes the SWM8 works on all the dishes, and I hope when you say HD oval. that you mean a slimline like this:

    http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.as...C-HD-Programming-(AU9S)&c=DIRECTV Dishes&sku=

    Also what type of receivers do you have?
    The new [last few years] ones work with the SWM, but the older ones don't.
     
  12. Aug 4, 2010 #1012 of 1305
    Baggabonez

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    Regardless I'm getting a free dish upgrade in a few days.

    Currently, I have:
    HR21-700 x 1
    D11 x 2 (which I know won't work with the SWM)

    I'm going to order:
    SWM-8
    1 x 8 splitter (unsure which one I need)
    Diplexer x 2 (cable internet in two rooms)
    D12 x 4 (I'm expanding x 2 and replacing the D11s)

    Is that all I need?
     
  13. Aug 4, 2010 #1013 of 1305
    bobnielsen

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    The SWM8 has 3 legacy ports which could be used with your D11s.
     
  14. Aug 4, 2010 #1014 of 1305
    veryoldschool

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    The free dish upgrade might have the SWMLNB, since DirecTV is moving to more SWiM installs. Guessing here that DirecTV will be doing the dish upgrade.
    1 HR21-700 & 4 D12s will all work off the SWiM LNB, and if they go with the SWiM, they will take care of the splitter & wiring.
     
  15. Aug 4, 2010 #1015 of 1305
    Baggabonez

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    Thanks guys for the advice and your patience
     
  16. Aug 9, 2010 #1016 of 1305
    CT_Wiebe

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    caracasmc -- First, those 2 satellites breaming coverage into your region are SPACEWAY not "Spacewalk".

    Second, it's very fundamental, to get the bandwidth and power necessary for the US HD signals, the satellite antenna are mostly spot beam patterns (even the wider antenna patterns are not very wide). This means that they are aimed at the various parts of the USA. Consequently, there will be almost, if not actually, zero signal strength for any areas outside of the contiguous US (they have real problems receiving any signals even in Alaska and Hawaii - I believe, but have no knowledge of their reception).

    The bottom line is that, as the newer satellites come "on-line" (with the newer HD channels), the available signals in regions of the Western Hemisphere become much more localized. DirecTV should never have sold you contractual coverage of the US channels, because it is not physically possible.

    You need to contact DirecTV and get a complete refund of the US service that you purchased (which was, apparently, sold to you in error). I'm assuming that the person you talked to (if you actually talked to a "human being"), did not understand that your dish is not located inside the USA.

    hdtvfan0001 -- We are just trying to help a DirecTV customer that is having a problem with his SWM system.

    EDIT: Whoops. I just realized that this post refers to the posts made prior to Post #1000. Sorry, I'm trying to catch up on my reading (even though my post still is applicable).
     
  17. jdmac29

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    I have a SWM5, 2 Directv HD dvr's (hr20-700/Hr21-700) recently started getting 771 error on both tuners. I have a swm engineering meter and I tested it on both receivers and everything checks out ok with it. I have unplugged both receivers and the power supply and checked all the coax lines and everytihng is good there also. Could the SWM power supply be failing or the module itself? My dish satellite strength is very high in the 90's. Any help would be appreciated.
     
  18. kjgarrison

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    Could you elaborate a bit on the SWM engineering meter please?
     
  19. veryoldschool

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    The SWM5 is getting a bit long in the tooth, but normally a system reset of everything should resolve things like this.
    When you say you've "checked all the coax", do you mean you've gone up to the dish and checked everything from there back?
     
  20. veryoldschool

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    These were a setup from the installation meters with only LEDs.
     

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