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SWM16 install requires 2 wires to inside?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by LiQiCE, Aug 25, 2013.

  1. carl6

    carl6 Moderator Staff Member DBSTalk Club

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    I have never heard that before. On what do you base that statement? What type of problems?
     
  2. inkahauts

    inkahauts Well-Known Member

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    There is a need to keep the SWM16 balanced though. 7 tuners on one side & 2 on the other will lead to problems down the road.


    Um since when? I have done that and never had any issues in the past? What issues?


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  3. peds48

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    There is a need to keep the SWM16 balanced though. 7 tuners on one side & 2 on the other will lead to problems down the road.
    Nope, 7 one one and 2 on the other tuner will NOT cause any issues. we we say "balanced" we mean no more than 8 tuners on either side


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  4. The Merg

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    There is a need to keep the SWM16 balanced though. 7 tuners on one side & 2 on the other will lead to problems down the road.


    Don't think I've ever heard of that. A SWM16 is basically two SWM8s that are bridged together. It shouldn't matter if you put 8 tuners on one side and 0 on the other.


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  5. veryoldschool

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    Only for convenience.
    Each of the two sections in the SWiM-16 are independent of each other, so neither have a clue what's on the other.

    There is no "need" to balance the tuner load because of "problems". :nono:
     
  6. Beerstalker

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    Has the OP considered going to a Genie with 2 clients and getting rid of all 3 HR23s (but keeping the HR24)?

    This would get him down to 7 tuners so he wouldn't have to change anything. Everything would still perform pretty much exacly as he has it now except he will only be able to record 7 things at any one time instead of 8 (but that probably wouldn't effect most people much).
     
  7. peds48

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    IMO, I would never replace an HDDVR for a client.
     
  8. Tisby

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    I've rolled on multiple service calls with what I consider to be an "unbalanced" SWM-16 as the online reason for problems. Most of the time it's easy to get the tuners as close to equal as possible, sometimes it requires some rewiring when multiple splitters are used.
     
  9. dennisj00

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    And what problems would those be?
     
  10. LiQiCE

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    I considered it but I'd prefer not to renew my contract and as I understand it adding a Genie client would renew my contract for 2 years. I bought an owned HR44 and my HR24 is owned. The HR23s are leased but I got them long enough ago that I won't be under contract for much longer (a few months more I think).

    If I could get an owned mini-client, I might consider it - although switching one of my HR23s to a single tuner would just as easily suffice I think as I'd only have 8 tuners. That to me seems like a more likely possibility instead of going the SWM16 route.
     
  11. Drucifer

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    I suspect the unbalance issue you found was cause by the customer moving equipment around and unintentionally going over the 8-tuner limit feed on one side of the SWM-16.
     
  12. inkahauts

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    I suspect the unbalance issue you found was cause by the customer moving equipment around and unintentionally going over the 8-tuner limit feed on one side of the SWM-16.
    either that or there was a bad connection the he fixed at the same time. There is just zero reason to balance the swim16. They don't affect one another.


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  13. veryoldschool

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    Or maybe there was an open port on a splitter.

    We could make [good] guesses all day, but none would having anything to do with "balancing" the load on a SWiM-16.
     
  14. HoTat2

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    True from a technical standpoint, but from a practical one, I just hate to waste resources with one side of the SWiM-16 doing little or nothing. :)
     
  15. veryoldschool

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    As I posted earlier, it makes moving receivers around a lot easier if each side isn't fully loaded.
    "Convenience"
     
  16. inkahauts

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    Completely true. By since the guy said it was a technical issue...

    I balance mine pretty evenly for that reason as well. I also balanced my folks that way when I got them setup, to make adding more recovers easier latter on, and more importantly, when I can move them to two genies....


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  17. LiQiCE

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    I added pictures to the first post - hope this helps describe my problem!
     
  18. peds48

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    It would seem to me that it would be easier for the tech to move the dish to the higher roof on back side if the house and run the cables through the "huggies" room and to the central location. Do you have a ground source there?
     
  19. LiQiCE

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    Unfortunately I don't think there is a ground source there. Do installers normally have grounding stakes with them or should I go out and buy one?
     
  20. peds48

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    I meant inside the house at the central location

    Installers do not cary ground stakes and even if they did this does no good because it would need to be boned to the main ground
     

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