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SWM16 - Whole Home - MRV - Maximum limits

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by vfz, Jun 12, 2012.

  1. vfz

    vfz Cool Member

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    The BB deca for internet is not installed, but if it is, it doesnt need to take up a port. You can use a 1x2 splitter for that as defined in the SWM16 diagrams downstream from the 1x8, with 1 wire to the deca router pkg, the other to the receiver.

    Screens showing the network config?
     
  2. vfz

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    I would be, but he never installed the ICK. He DID install the DECA's on the 3 receivers that needed them. (He did this first, but then stopped before installing the ICK because this issue took all day to complete)

    So, needless to say, the wired devices still work as they are connected direct to a router or switch..
     
  3. veryoldschool

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    I know quite well how to configure DECA, but "moving along"...
    The two things you need to check are:
    1) are all the DECAs part of the same node, and what is the loss between each.
    2) without a router, the receivers are using their internal IP addresses [169.xxx], which can either be your problem [as they take longer to poll each other to find them] or you may have a subnet wrong.
     
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    So you've finally posted what the problem is....
    You have two networks that aren't connected to each other.
     
  5. peds48

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    you cannot have some devices on ethernet and some on DECA, is an all or nothing situation. which receivers are with ethernet?
     
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    Actually you can BUT need the BB DECA [CCK] to bridge the two.
     
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    yeah, I know but the OP does not have one
     
  9. vfz

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    OK, sorry,

    So, you are telling me that whole home depends on the ICK to create networked receivers, despite the fact they send data through coax and not the broadband? If so, thats the apparent problem. I repeat, he did NOT install the ICK to my system.
     
  10. peds48

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    no that is not the problem. the problem is that some receivers are being network through your router while others are being network via DECA and since they dont have the CCK, they cannot reach your router, thus they can't see their playlist
     
  11. vfz

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    PEDS48, I respect your note, and I have called them. I have called them 5 times in 2 days and have never gotten a tech call back. Only an admin asking if my install went ok, or someone asking me to tell them my problem so they can email it to someone who will ignore it.

    This is why I am in this forum and the DTV forum. NO one at DTV knows any answers or what they are doing. I am hoping to solve the issue myself!
     
  12. veryoldschool

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    "Then" all the receivers need to be on DECA "only", and not have any connected to your router.

    "If you were to look" at your IP addresses [as asked earlier] they need to be of the same type/group and without a CCK they must all start with 169.xxx
    If they don't, then it isn't a DECA problem but "merely" a networking screw up.
     
  13. veryoldschool

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    post #15
     
  14. vfz

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    I believe you, but how do you explain everything working perfect within the group of 5 on the same splitter? The 5 receivers on each splitter see each other and I can watch, record, see full playlists, etc between the 5. Only a few are wired. The rest are not. Those that are being networked through my router are intermixed with BOTH groups.

    Being a network admin, I know that has nothing to do with it, either does the submit someone else mentioned.

    Those sharing playlists are on multiple nets, with the only common item is the splitter.
     
  15. peds48

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    then for starters, remove the ethernet connection form those receivers and do a red button reset. this will give you back your WHDVR. and then order a DECA BB adapter which you can install yourself to give the DirecTV system internet access if you want to be able to download from DOD and the extra perks that comes with having an internet connected system
     
  16. vfz

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    I will remove all from my router... and let you know.
     
  17. peds48

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    it does not matter where the ethernet connected receivers are connected to (splitters). they are being network by your router NOT the DECA
     
  18. vfz

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    OK, I will try that.. and I will get them to send/install the BB adaptor.
     
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    PEDS, are you saying my router is networking the entire system by virtue of being connected to 1 receiver? none of the others are connected to anything. Nice, why isnt this the default? Save on DECA BB.
     
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    No. your router is networking the receivers that are connected with ethernet, regardless of the SWM output they are connected to. The SWM is just providing the satellite signal while your router is doing the networking. for those receivers that are using DECA, then the DECA is doing the networking.
     

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