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Discussion in 'Tech Talk - Gadgets, Gizmos and Technology' started by Rich, Apr 15, 2011.

  1. Steve

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    It's actually $25/year, but still not bad.

    It's especially good for folks that have ripped a lot of vinyl. You get to replace scratchy copies with 256kbps VBR AAC studio remasters.
     
  2. Drew2k

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    K, thanks. Still much cheaper than the Zune Pass...
     
  3. lparsons21

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    Yeah, the Match deal is very good. It doesn't do much for me as I don't really do songs on my iOS devices. Just video and ebooks on the iPad for the most part.

    My other iOS device is gathering dust, it is the AppleTV2 - I went back to the ATV1 with 40Gb hd in it since they did away with rentals of TV shows. For me the current ATV has no advantage to the older one and some disadvantages.
     
  4. Rich

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    Yup, but all "purchased from iTunes music" is free. In my case, I didn't have to pay anything, but folks with a lot of CD material that they keep on iTunes do have to pay the $25 fee for all their content. This combines "purchased" with "downloaded from other sources content" on the Cloud.

    I haven't had time to try the Google site yet.

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  5. Rich

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    From what I've read, the quality of all content other than original iTunes content is enhanced quite well. I've never used another service to purchase music, but the enhancement alone seems to be worth $25 a year. And suppose you had downloaded 500 CDs to iTunes on one computer and wanted all that content on the five devices you are allowed. I'd rather pay the money than download all that content from CDs to individual devices.

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  6. Rich

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    I just tried the Google Music and I couldn't upload all my iTunes songs. Think I'll stick with what I know works.

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  7. dualsub2006

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    Long ago when Apple offered the upgrade to 256k, DRM free tracks I jumped on it. Seems like it cost me almost $100 to do all of my tracks.

    I got all but 6 of my 15,000 tracks uploaded to Google Music and can stream on my Android phone, iPad or any computer that I'm on. iCloud wouldn't let me stream anything in the way that Google Music does.

    For me, Google Music is the way to go. It's not going to work for everyone, but I've switched allegiance from iTunes to Google Music.
     
  8. Steve

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    You probably can't upload any DRM-protected iTunes songs you have on your PC. Can you iTunes match those to DRM-free copies? If so, you should then be able to upload those to the Google cloud. Up to 20,000 songs free. Assuming Google does their job (and doesn't go out of business) and you have an internet connection, you'll never have to worry about backing those songs up again.

    Like dualsub2006 says, the advantage of uploading your iTunes library to Google music is, unlike with iTunes, you don't have to have it on your PC, phone or iPad to play it. You can stream it from the Google cloud. And the Google cloud player web app works beautifully on the iPod and iPad.
     
  9. Chris Blount

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    This is also a misconception. You can have your songs in iCloud and not on your PC, iPod or iPad. it's just when you want to play them, they automatically download to your device while you are playing them. You can delete them from the device again but they still remain in the cloud.
     
  10. phrelin

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    Regarding the Amazon Cloud, right now we have the (now discontinued offer) ”Buy an MP3 Album and Upgrade to 20 GB of Cloud Drive Storage for Free".

    As usual, I find myself confused. It seems like I should buy the current offer which is $20 for 20GB "all paid Cloud Drive storage plans include unlimited space for music (.mp3 and .m4a files) at no additional charge" as we have around 50GB of music.

    But, being a cheap guy, I can't tell if we would lose the 20 GB freebie we have now have. And the Amazon site isn't real clear in that it says the current offer is "a limited time...unlimited space for music" which either means the offer is available for a limited time or the the unlimited space is included for a limited time.

    Just for the heck of it, I sent an inquiry about the matter and from Rajib S I got this response:
    :sure:

    Well, maybe I'll call tomorrow.
     
  11. Steve

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    FWIW, assuming you've got 50GB and your average encode is 10MB, that's only 5000+ songs. Google lets you upload 20,000 songs for free.
     
  12. Steve

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    It might matter if your playback device has limited storage available. Since you're downloading on demand with iTunes, on a full device, you might have to delete something first to make room for new music. With Google, you're just streaming, so device storage is not an issue.

    OTOH, with Google, no signal, no music, unless you proactively download. With iTunes, doesn't matter, because if you listened to something at least once, it's still on the device (until you delete it). Two different approaches.
     
  13. Drew2k

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    Google also uses 320K for encoding for songs purchased from the Google Music store, so if you got all 20,000 songs from them, you'd be using a nice chunk of space in their cloud!

    I think they also do some re-encoding when you upload, because my paltry 5800 songs took over 24 hours to upload to the Google cloud. (I have 5 Mbps upload speed.)

    I love the Google implementation because, as Steve points out, I can go anywhere there is an internet connection and open music.google.com in a web browser, login, and start playing my music. There's no cleanup afterwards, just log out. Super convenient...
     
  14. dualsub2006

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    The Android music app let's you mark playlists to download for offline use. I've got several playlists synced to my phone that total around 2,000 tracks.

    I've never lost the ability to listen even when I've lost signal.
     
  15. Drew2k

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    Yup... The Android app also offers option to buffer music, to improve quality in areas with poor quality connection. The option to mark for download in the Android app is super convenient, though...
     
  16. Chris Blount

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    That's great if you actually use it. Personally I always have my phone with me so I always have my music. Having the ability to login anywhere is something I would almost never use. Also, IMHO, requring internet access to play music is a limitation. For me, there MUST be some form of local storage especially with data caps on some providers.
     
  17. Drew2k

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    My office is on the fringe of a free WiFi area provided by my ISP so I can stream all day, but on Android devices any music in your Google Cloud can be marked for offline access and will be automatically downloaded. Best of both worlds! :)
     
  18. Rich

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    Thing is, I have very little interest in music. The only time I listen to it is in my car when I can't listen to sports radio stations because I have recorded games I haven't seen and don't want to spoil the games by knowing the score.

    For me, iTunes is perfect.

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  19. Steve

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    I wonder how the tablet guys at Google feel about stories like this one, from today's LATimes.com?

    Between Kindles, Nooks and iPads, it seems there's very little retail buzz for "Android" tablets heading into the Christmas shopping season.

    Ya, Nook and Fire tablets are technically Android (2.3), but because they're so heavily customized and have their own app stores, there's no Android experience being promoted, AFAIK. Nor does Google derive any branding or advertising revenue from freely licensing their intellectual property for these devices.

    Makes me wonder which company is hurt more by Fire and Nook sales, Google or Apple? :scratchin Curious what others think. TIA.
     
  20. Rich

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    Now that you mention it, I haven't seen anything on TV except Fire, Nook and the ever present iPad.

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